Communion - items of master affect slaves ?

[Foodstamp]

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Air 9+ gives 75% shock resistance. The bless on your guys would have been 80% air shield, 75% shock resistance. As far as the charge body effect, are you sure you didn't mistake one of the icons since your shammies would have two from the bless?

[mivayan]

Wish said:
no to soul vortex and breath of winter, but yes to power of the spheres, charge body, and ritual of returning (from that one artifact armor)

Neat to know. Sounds like you've tried it?

MaxWilson said:
For instance, in a test game with an S5F4 caster, 2 communicants took a total of 112 fatigue (8 + 108) when the master was scripted to <Communion Master, Astral Shield, Flame Storm>. 2 theurgs scripted to <Communion Slave> took 23 fatigue from casting Communion Slave, 31 and 41 more from Astral Shield (making 54 and 64 respectively)

31 and 41 from astral shield is *Really* odd. Were the theurgs wearing really heavy armor or something?

[thejeff]

MaxWilson said:
31 and 41 from astral shield is *Really* odd. Were the theurgs wearing really heavy armor or something?

Drain?

[RamsHead]

Foodstamp said:
I like peanut butter cookies too

Air 9+ gives 75% shock resistance. The bless on your guys would have been 80% air shield, 75% shock resistance. As far as the charge body effect, are you sure you didn't mistake one of the icons since your shammies would have two from the bless?

I just tested it, and indeed mages who are communioned up when the battle starts receive effects from items that are only active in battles.

[Foodstamp]

So the deal is, they have to be communioned at the start of battles (Only can happen with slave matrix) and they gain the powers of the master if he is wearing an item that gives an ability at the start of combat?

[MaxWilson]

mivayan said:
31 and 41 from astral shield is *Really* odd. Were the theurgs wearing really heavy armor or something?

I know, it was weird. This was a test game (all spells pre-researched), theurgs straight from recruitment, no drain scales anywhere. I didn't test with other astral mages (e.g. lizard shamans) to see if it was specific to theurgs or to astral shield, but this is not the first time I've seen certain casters take surprising amounts of fatigue from certain spells (even when not in communion) so it was only a moderate shock. My main point was to show that communicants are really great communion slaves who take low fatigue even if you use them to cast e.g. Master Enslave. I ran a couple of other tests with e.g. Enslave Mind and got similar results--2 communicants took very little fatigue, 2 theurgs took lots--even though according to DrPraetorious' figures on communion the communicants should have been taking (20/3)*3 fatigue from each casting (because they are 1S under communion and the spell is 4S). Communicants are different from normal communion slaves.

-Max

[RamsHead]

Foodstamp said:
So the deal is, they have to be communioned at the start of battles (Only can happen with slave matrix) and they gain the powers of the master if he is wearing an item that gives an ability at the start of combat?

Well, they both have to be hooked up, so you will need a crystal matrix and a slave matrix. Also, just like how communion slaves count only if they are mages (with the exception of communicants), your slave with have to be a mage to receive the item's effect.

[DrPraetorious]

So this won't work with robes of invulnerability, since they work outside of battle as well? Too bad.

[Wish]

yeah, so far just the 3 i mentioned above. everything else is an icon'd effect.