Has anything really changed?

[Combat Wombat]

Actually its not a 255 system limit in SEV, it may say that in the data file but I know people have made SEV maps that are easily over 255 systems. Since SEV is just an enhanced Starfury engine this makes sense because Starfury you could have like 300-400 systems. The random map generator in SEV however might not like a number higher than 255 so you might have to add new systems by hand.

[Q]

I was one of those who was disappointed, that the maximum system number was not higher than 255.
But as I see how the game performs on my Athlon 64 3400+ computer, I think my hardware is much more the limitation. The turn processing time of a game with 255 systems at stardate 2430.0 might be just too long. It reminds of of SE IV on my old P II 233MHz computer.

[RonGianti]

I modded in a game of 250 systems. I had to keep maximizing the system view to see the different systems since everything was so compact the systems kind of squished together.

But with that many systems, the End of Turn Processing bug inevitably came up.

I was hoping for more than 255 systems too, but after playing about 100 turns in a 250 system game, I'm pretty sure now that say, a 500 system game would be... unwieldy. I think you'd have to give over large portions of your empire to ministers and give up a lot of micromanagment.

I'd be happy if I could get 250 systems in a game. That would be pretty epic...

[Q]

I have a turn based test game with 203 systems run on minister control till 2402.5 without problems. When did your End of Turn Processing bug show up?

[shinigami]

I can say for sure that the 255 limit does not exist. I changed the settings.txt to max out at 300 and used 300 for both ends of the range on a large quad. Not sure what the real upper limit for max systems is.



Takes the game forever and a day to generate the map and do player placement, though.

I think 300 systems would turn into a micro-managment nightmare!

[Phoenix-D]

Hmm. The comment in settings.txt must be a leftover from SE4, then.

[RonGianti]

Q said:
I have a turn based test game with 203 systems run on minister control till 2402.5 without problems. When did your End of Turn Processing bug show up?

Well, out of 4 modded games I played where I only changed the max systems, 3 of them hung around turn 50 with End of Turn Processing.

The more I think about it though, and this is just a wild guess, I think that troops and ground combat cause this issue. I'm not using troops any more (I just glass the planet and recolonize ) and I dont' get the End of Turn processing bug.

Maybe I'll reuse my mod and try a big game again and try and narrow down the issue...

[Desdinova]

i do not use ground forces and my games still hangup on the end of turn processing. i have not played on a small map so did not realize the size may be part of the delay. i have had games start having problems as early as 2401.0 and 2 last until around 2420.0 b4 having problems.

[Q]

Never had this hangup on the end of turn processing so far.
So if you use the last savegame and go through it again, will it happen constantly or is it a random hangup?

[Captain Kwok]

It can be both - but in the majority of cases even repeatable crashes can be averted by switching the AIs over to human control for a turn. Anyway, in theory most of this has been dealth with in 1.09-1.11...