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Executor · #**191** December 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM

"Discussing global warming at the dom3 forum? Bad idea. Discussing it on a forum about global warming, great idea."

So why does everybody keep discussing it? It's the beer isn't it?

Omnirizon · #**192** December 16th, 2008, 03:54 PM

there are GW forums with real scientists?

that's probably why it isn't discussed there by the people trying to talk about it here.

Soyweiser · #**193** December 16th, 2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Executor

"Discussing global warming at the dom3 forum? Bad idea. Discussing it on a forum about global warming, great idea."

So why does everybody keep discussing it? It's the beer isn't it?

Just feeding the trolls

. Otherwise they would have to live under a bridge. Or perhaps, I'm afraid to live under a bridge myself.

Tifone · #**194** December 16th, 2008, 04:10 PM

Lol, peaceful attempt to sink the whole thing in beer = FAILED

I have just one question for my old friend SlipperyJim...
Why do we find EVERY time to the opposite sides of the barricade??

Really, I can spot your position just by the way you refer to this "Global Warmism"

MaxWilson · #**195** December 16th, 2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Executor

"Discussing global warming at the dom3 forum? Bad idea. Discussing it on a forum about global warming, great idea."

So why does everybody keep discussing it? It's the beer isn't it?

I think it's because my attempt to invoke Godwin's Law ran afoul of Quirk's exception, which means the thread is hereby immune to any further attempts to Godwinize it.

-Max

licker · #**196** December 16th, 2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by licker

I stand by what I said.

Pointless and baseless fearmongering FTW!!!

By the way, pandemic, or asteroid impact, or...

All more likely than your doomsday scenario. I suppose you have thoughts on those issues?

All you're doing is trolling now.

In case you haven't been on the internet long enough yet, let me clarify for you - mocking me only shows that you are incapable of continuing with reasonable debate. This generally can only stem from one of two reasons: a)my assertions are true enough but you don't want to admit it, or b)you are out of your depth, and incapable of continuing with a reasonable and meaningful discussion.

Gee...

Ya think?

I've already made it clear that an argument with you on this topic is pointless, you've made up your mind beyond any shadow of doubt, so yeah, I'll just have some fun with it.

There's also c)this thread has gone on long enough and has become tedious to bother with in a serious manner.

If you are truly interested in a discussion of GW PM me, if you are only interested in parroting some meaningless alarmist babble don't bother.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M

Is an interesting article by Tim Patterson which touches some of the points that have been made. If you would care to share your critique of it feel free.

Radioheart · #**197** December 16th, 2008, 04:28 PM

It has been my observation that the more responsible media outlets and (in the USA) our new more progressive leadership has rather preferred the term Climate Change to broach the subject of human influence on the climate and atmosphere. Global Warming has become much too divisive and doesn't adequately describe the phenomenon. Should the climate change, some places may get colder.

However you name it, hard to imagine we could make such a significant change in our atmosphere (increased CO2 levels) without having some measurable, observable affect on the global climate. These effects may not have manifested themselves to the extent we can link them to the changed composition of our atmosphere with complete certainty, at least not with the currently observable data, but surely some change will take, and has already taken place.

One thing I think gives a lot of perspective, especially in the context of those who think the earth is such a big place and cannot imagine how we could affect anything on such a scale, is how thin our atmosphere really is. Travel 30 miles in any direction NESW and you'll probably be somewhere quite similar to the place you started. Travel 30 miles straight up are you are in the Mesosphere, the wispy thin border of deep space.

licker · #**198** December 16th, 2008, 04:39 PM

What happens if you travel 30 miles straight down?

You do know that we have had higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere before right? And that it was also very cold during that time? Oh, there are reasons I'm sure, well excuses more like it, to make up for unproven science being shoved down everyones throat.

Though I'm not sure who here is actually saying that 'we' shouldn't do anything, though I get the feeling that some of you think that.

Radioheart · #**199** December 16th, 2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by licker

Though I'm not sure who here is actually saying that 'we' shouldn't do anything, though I get the feeling that some of you think that.

We are gonna have to stop using fossil fuels eventually. Finite supply after all. Might as well get a headstart.

Also, go go fusion power!

Soyweiser · #**200** December 16th, 2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by licker

You do know that we have had higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere before right? And that it was also very cold during that time? Oh, there are reasons I'm sure, well excuses more like it, to make up for unproven science being shoved down everyones throat.

I personally think that we shouldn't focus on co2 alone. There are a lot more factors that show that we are kinda ruining our planet. Increased smog levels, polluted oceans (the floating plastic, dead spots), the ozone layer, depleting resources, overpopulation etc. Not all of this causes global warming. But it is all the caused by our inability to reduce our production population and our constant need for 'moar'.