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Executor · #**191** January 7th, 2009, 10:01 PM

Quiti, I see you are a very bad loser and that will get you nowhere. With this attitude you will never win a single game. People will begin to hate you for the way you play and will want to take you out as soon as possible. I am very certain that you just made some enemies in this game, nothing else.

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While what you're doing is allowable as far as the design of the game goes I'd say it is somewhat akin to knocking over a chessboard after losing a game in terms of sportsmanship.

I couldn't agree with this statement more, bravo.

I'm a bit interested now, would you go for this solution in a megagame???

vfb · #**192** January 7th, 2009, 10:31 PM

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Sorry Fakeymcfake and Executor, I have to say that I see it totally differently.

I suppose it depends on whether you are playing this game to win, like it's chess or some other pure intellectual challenge; or whether you create some kind of fantasy in your head about the situation (RP). Of course, when you play from a RP perspective, you are still trying to win in that case too: you want your pretender to ascend and become the new one true god.

The difference shows up when your pretender has lost hope of ascending. What do you do in that case? Just go AI? That's one option, and there's nothing wrong with choosing it. Or you can try to exact revenge on the nations who caused your demise, using any means available. Or you can become the vassal of some other nation -- this is the only choice I really don't like (but when I think back when I first started playing, there didn't seem to be anything wrong doing that ... but now: ewww!). Or if you've had an enjoyable war but come out on the short side, you can even surrender to the victor, and maybe he will even discover a cache of loot in your treasure chest. Or your vengeful followers can distribute the last unused gems and items to the enemies of your enemy, so retribution will be paid upon the wicked. I think I've done all these at one time or another.

And you don't know for sure what TC has planned either. He may have saved up enough gold from when he had Nature's Bounty up that he thinks he still may have a miniscule chance for his god to ascend, if he totally destroys the income of the others in the world. (I don't think that's the case here ... but I'm not Quitti.)

There's nothing in any of Quitti's posts that I read, that indicate he's Armageddoning the world just out of spite. I'd be happy to play with him again.

If you want to play in a game without Armageddons, then please make sure that's part of the conditions at the time you join. Otherwise, find a way to work around it. That's part of the fun playing against people!

I think it's possible this post will irritate you and make you want to attack R'lyeh. That's okay! (The attacking R'lyeh part, I mean. I'm not intentionally trying to anger you, I just see that as a possible outcome.)

As you may have guessed, I play the game from an RP angle. So I do want my god to ascend, by any means necessary. But I do enjoy the challenge that comes from finding solutions to problems thrown at me. And even if you are not RP'ing, I will RP for you, and invent some reason (in my head) why Sauromatia decided to attack R'lyeh. I'm not saying you have to attack me though!

Please kill TC's wisher first, at least.

Juffos · #**193** January 8th, 2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Executor

If you do choose to continue to do this, I will clearly have no chance to win but I will do anything and everything in my power to make Vfb the winner.

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Originally Posted by Executor

Quiti, I see you are a very bad loser and that will get you nowhere. With this attitude you will never win a single game. People will begin to hate you for the way you play and will want to take you out as soon as possible. I am very certain that you just made some enemies in this game, nothing else.

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While what you're doing is allowable as far as the design of the game goes I'd say it is somewhat akin to knocking over a chessboard after losing a game in terms of sportsmanship.

I couldn't agree with this statement more, bravo.

I'm a bit interested now, would you go for this solution in a megagame???

Augh, the mirror! The mirror! It burns!

JimMorrison · #**194** January 8th, 2009, 08:20 AM

I feel like I'm in some sort of Dominions addicts meeting.....

Hi, I'm Jim Morrison, and I play Dominions.

"Hi, Jim!"

O.o

There's an irony to Armageddon, really, and that is if you look very closely at the game, you can almost see who will win because of it. Anyway, I hope you wanted R'lyeh to win, because it sure looks inevitable at this point.

I am in the camp who kind of doesn't care about the ultimate outcome anymore, I would just like the game to end.

vfb · #**195** January 8th, 2009, 08:34 AM

... O_o ... *_\ ... O#o ... escape click click click r click click click click F click click click F1 scroll scroll click click click scroll scroll click click click escape F5 click click e AHHHHhhh.....

Hi Jim.

Quitti · #**196** January 8th, 2009, 08:50 AM

Vfb speaks wise words. I mostly agree with what he said. (Being a vassal might still be a viable strategy for winning the game if you had some epicly good plan.) But either way, While nature's bounty netted me huge loads of gold, they're gone now - used to upkeep and new mages mostly. I do not play for win anymore, I play to make the game the way I want it to turn out - I'm eliminating many players from the victory race, while giving a chance to the only nation that did not attack or threaten me, and giving a chance to the only opponent I have that I've had really fun time trying to battle against. The outcome is best when it's one of your choosing, is it not?

And to be honest. "You made some enemies" does sound like another threat thrown at me. I do not carry grudges between games, knowing other player from previous/simultaneous games might alter my tactics of playing against that nation, but I certainly do not see them as "enemies" (as much as you can't see other people as enemies in dominions) from the beginning. Are you trying to speak me out of opening huge calderas in the ground, causing massive quakes and tidal waves? I don't really think you can. I'm a god afterall

Quitti · #**197** January 8th, 2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Executor

I'm a bit interested now, would you go for this solution in a megagame???

If it suited my purposes and was not against the rules, the answer is Yes, I would.

JimMorrison · #**198** January 8th, 2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Quitti

Vfb speaks wise words. I mostly agree with what he said. (Being a vassal might still be a viable strategy for winning the game if you had some epicly good plan.)

In my first MP game ever, I got diplomatically sandwiched into 13 provinces, in a poor location. I offered my services to my good neighbor, considering the entire game a learning experience. I cast the first global, and ended up with 4 up at end game (including Arcane Nexus), and we ultimately considered it a joint victory.....

Just proves - when your only sure thing is guaranteed failure, always go for the long shot.

Executor · #**199** January 8th, 2009, 09:14 AM

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And to be honest. "You made some enemies" does sound like another threat thrown at me.
I'm just saying, not everyone is so forgiving.

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I'm eliminating many players from the victory race, while giving a chance to the only nation that did not attack or threaten me, and giving a chance to the only opponent I have that I've had really fun time trying to battle against. The outcome is best when it's one of your choosing, is it not?

Hehe, I wonder why you're helping Agartha...
Well R'lyeh was kinda the only one besides Agartha who has in a position to attack you. If you were next to me, believe me I'd throw everything I have at you.

But I did take out the first biggest threat of the game, named Cealum and controled by Baalz so that's enough for me.

Fakeymcfake · #**200** January 8th, 2009, 07:19 PM

I personally have no issues with the use of Armageddon as it can be a very powerful weapon if used correctly and prepared for properly. However, in this case it appears to be nothing but an act of desperation and/or spite, which while perfectly in line with the rules is something I find somewhat distasteful and I've said as much.

But I'm not going to declare Quitti an automatic enemy because of this or make any other comments as to his character or abilities as a player. Though I will be watching him closely if/when we wind up in another game together as this situation is one I would certainly like to avoid.