Omaha Beach - Scen #9

[Ts4EVER]

Shameless self plug:
What you COULD do, if the scenario is bugged for now, is going into the Campaigns and Scenarios forum and download my Redux 29th Infantry Campaign.
The first scenario is about the Omaha Landings, but you can deploy your own force and the map is more accurate (made with the satellite data conversion tool that was not available back when scenario 9 was created).
Also, I still need testers because the campaign is WIP.

[Second-Maître Laurent]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

Shameless self plug:
What you COULD do, if the scenario is bugged for now, is going into the Campaigns and Scenarios forum and download my Redux 29th Infantry Campaign.
The first scenario is about the Omaha Landings, but you can deploy your own force and the map is more accurate (made with the satellite data conversion tool that was not available back when scenario 9 was created).
Also, I still need testers because the campaign is WIP.

Hi Ts4EVER!
I've a little time.
I can test your scenario.
I'm going to dwnload it.
See you later.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Ts4EVER

Shameless self plug:
What you COULD do, if the scenario is bugged for now, is going into the Campaigns and Scenarios forum and download my Redux 29th Infantry Campaign.
The first scenario is about the Omaha Landings, but you can deploy your own force and the map is more accurate (made with the satellite data conversion tool that was not available back when scenario 9 was created).
Also, I still need testers because the campaign is WIP.

Yes, and one possibility for you is to create a standalone Omaha scenario from that campaign that we can add to the game

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Second-Maître Laurent

DRG, probably you've found the issue.
Have you a solution?

Not yet. That symbol it's showing indicates that for whatever reason that scenario is trying to load a terrain tile that it should not be which tells me there is info locked in the DAT file that should not be there and it's probably connected to the conversion to Windows from DOS. All it takes is one number

That example shows three ways that map edge can be seen. There should ONLY be two. If green tiles are showing there the problem is revealed

The "good news" from my POV is in my one experience with this reloading the game from the Auto save after the game shuts down SEEMS TO solve the problem..........that and the fact that Tom never reported an issue with it when he played it from both sides for his review

If anyone else has the time play it out and let me know if it shuts down either at the end of turn 5 or the beginning of turn 6 and if it does then does restarting the auto-save let you continue playing.

From what I can see the scenario is 99.9% intact. I need to test more but if you see green on the west map edge avoid scrolling the map so that the upper left corner is displayed and if it does shut down simply restart using the autosave

EDIT


I started a new version of this AI vs AI then changed it to Human vs Human on a restart and turned off all of the Computer-controlled units I could and I am now on turn 10.. the west map edge only shows grey and the game has not shut down

Thinking now it's one sequence of events that triggers this and sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not which is why it didn't happen to Tom turning his testing review. The "trick" is finding the trigger but FOR SURE the "tell" that the issue is in play is if you see some green tiles on the west map edge

EDIT 2


It's back........ turn 12



but the red and yellow symbol is not so it did not crash

Once the green edge shows up EDIT clearing smoke ( U ) will remove the green but so far I have found the green edge itself is not the cause of the crash but it's likely whatever sequence of code that puts that symbol on the map that does

BUT

It does seem that if it happens just start the game again with the autosave and you can continue on

[Second-Maître Laurent]

Okay. So I've started again this scenario, saving turn after turn in a new slot each tile (1 turn, 1 slot).

Arriving at the end of turn 5, I've turn off smoke, saved again my game. turned off the game and restart. miracle: I'm arrived on turn 6... with a lot of green on the left of the screen. But I'm on turn 6: victory!

Thanks for your help and I hope this issue will be settled for the next upload!
Cautious as a snake walking on eggs, I'm goein to continue to save the game, turn after turn (for this issue appear on turn 12 again).
So, guys, you're are superguys (better than superman ).
So long and good speed!

[Beeg]

Hi,

Just came across this thread and I have the same problem with the game crashing. It seems to happen in long, large scenarios (large army, large map) when the green hexes on the left of the map appear. I play a lot of AI vs. AI. Sometimes restoring from the last save game helps, sometimes not. The 'clear smoke' function gets rid of the green hexes on the left but they come back as soon as smoke appears.

It happens on all the big scenarios I've played in the last couple years, since the upgrade before this last one. I like to make changes to scenarios, like a "what if" situation, and have the PC play itself so I figured the changes were to blame before I saw this thread.

I just thought I'd let you know in case it helps.

[Mobhack]

I noticed that the buggy terrain appears on the map edge only after smoke has first appeared on the map. Everything is just fine till smoke/flame is added.

If you press "U" to clear smoke, then the grass hexes that overwrite grey map edge ones go away again, until you press U again or new smoke arrives - triggering the global "show smoke" flag.

Now - if you clear smoke and then hit end turn, and no new smoke arrives - you might be able to make it through the turn end. However Don's solution of saving, exiting the game and restarting again is a much better solution here. Especially if you see some garbage map hexes that aren't green grass at the LHS of the map - like that red blob!.

So the problem seems to be related to the smoke, likely an index or a pointer out of bounds (?) - and the very large map with loads of toys on it - I'll need to debug that when I find the time. If it is (hopefully) in some small part then hopefully I can put some guard code into whatever is doing this and pointing off into the map array(s) which likely are declared just after the smoke one in memory. (If the game had been programmed in say Pascal, rather than C++, then that language would have thrown an array out of bounds error "hissy fit", C++ simply assumes that the programmer fully intended to do whatever daft thing it's told to..)

[DRG]

Andy is absolutely correct. That green shows up when smoke is present. Pressing U gets rid of the smoke AND the weirdnesses along the western edge. So with this scenario I would suggest clearing smoke before ending your turn MIGHT "solve" the problem until we can (.... Maybe) figure out how to stop it

[Ts4EVER]

Oh I will absolutely do that when the campaign is finished. In fact, I did that with the original version, so those scenarios already ingame could be replaced by the new ones with the satellite based maps.

[DRG]

I think in furure in cases like this where the game is crashing for people we need to see details of their computer and memory and info on what else may have been going on at the same time

Also....... saying things like "It happens on all the big scenarios I've played in the last couple years" Just that does not help us without examples of what scenarios were being played and how they were being played ( AI vs Human or AI vs AI )

What this thread amounts to is TWO (2) players have noticed a problem on a thread that has 877 (to date) views AND we have a player would has now playtested 624 scenarios ( from BOTH SIDES ) and he has not reported a problem