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February 1st, 2012, 12:00 AM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
The first entry into any formation has to be a UNIT ( NEVER a formation ) so if the first unit is part of a HQ formation then you have to build the HQ formation in the Coy as individual units THEN add the formations. Formations always start line 2 or higher.
If you had a 2 tank section that would be entered as two units on line 1 and 2 and then you can add platoons
Don
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February 1st, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
Don, Excellent post! Yes I think I'm off on the right track thanks to your last post. Here's is what I'm building for the CAB Mech Inf Team:
HQ/M2A3
---Mech Inf Pl x3
------Mech Rifle Sec x4
------Tow Team x2
------M2A3 x4
---Mech Inf Support Sect x1
------Stinger Team x3
------M2A3 x1
------Ammo Truck x 3
------M1129 x1
------M1128 x2
42 units / 135 men
The default Headquarters (A0) will ride in a BFV.
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February 1st, 2012, 04:04 PM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
YOU can add ammo trucks to a formation for your personal OOB but that's not the way it would be done in the game OOB's
Don
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February 1st, 2012, 04:30 PM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
Thanks Don, as it is suggested that support elements belong at the HHC, so I'll pull the Mech Inf Support from the OOB. I can cross-attach ammo trucks, BSVs, M6 Linebackers, SPMs and MGSs to the A0.
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February 16th, 2012, 12:24 AM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
Fellow Wargamers,
Proposed CAB Tank Team
After many contributions from fellow wargamers, I am beginning to narrow my focus to constructing BCT formations around the CAB. Here please note that we're using a 3x2 CAB Tank Team of an HBCT within winSPMBT context with the following C&C: A0-> Helos, UAV, Ammo, SP-A : B0 -> CAV, MechInf, Tanks, and Mortars as a way to demonstrate an Army organic fighting team within winSPMBT.
Note: In this proposal, an Infantry SAM team joins a Mechanized Infantry Squad, providing organic AA capability to the platoon. In our winSPMBT context, a new section of M1129s is also created. Additionally, a modification to the 00B12 creating an Attack/Recon Helo formation is required. Please note, this schema builds upon the existing blocks within winSPMBT so that we may create various combinations of an organic sustainable CAB tank or mech inf team. Such that, purchasing 3 mech inf platoons and one tank platoon creates a CAB Mech Inf team, or as represented in the link below, purchasing 3 tank platoon and 2 mech inf platoons creates a tank team, etc.
The core units are controlled by the Coy, while supporting units are under the control of the default A0 in our game.
We need your input. To date, we have relied on several publications published on the Net out of Ft. Lavenforth, KS for reference with current Army thinking and doctrine. I am of the opinion that the UAV should replace the Lt Attack Recon helo for example. Some Army designers are thinking of a three-tank platoon, although the current four-tank platoon continues.
One of the vexing issues in the Army is training units to fight as a team as opposed to cross-attaching units, where commanders may not know one another to the degree thought sufficient, is a thorny issue that the proposed Combined Arms Battalion is designed to answer. It is promoted as a way to ensure that the Army continues to dominate over any adversary.
Click here to see the chart 3x2 CAB Tank Team
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February 16th, 2012, 02:37 AM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
I would stay with the helo, the new OH-58 KIOWA WARRIOR F is still on track to be fielded with the USA within the next two to three months, whereas, the GLOBAL HAWK successor is being cut from the current budget.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/22901/
Will still save this ref. was going to submit it with some other helo issues for the next patch but we all see how busy Don and Andy have been. My article on the UAV is now not available as the Defence News website has again decided to change their format for the second time in the last six months.
I like where your heading though for what it's worth.
Regards,
Pat
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March 10th, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
This source has a lot of the support illustrated, if you are in an evil mood and want to drop airborne on a resupply convoy or support battalion.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/57407087/F...eams-May2010-1
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March 11th, 2012, 07:36 PM
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Re: winSPMBT - Brigade Combat Teams
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A useful resource. I've downloaded the pdf. Again, many thanks.
There are a number of items I would like to add, such as missles to the Abrams although many,if not most, think the M1 doesn't need 'em, I added Stinger to Mech Inf for organic AA support along with Javelin and MMG teams.
The following formations are suggested:
Mech Inf Platoon
Mech Rifle Section x 2
Tow Team x 1
Stiger Team x 1
Mech Inf Squad x 1
M2 x 4
Cavalry Platoon
Cavalry Scouts x 3
Stinger Team x 1
M3 x 6
Attack Recon Platoon
AH-64 x 1
OH-58D X 1
I'll fight with these guys.
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