Early HEAT for Soviet tanks...

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Originally Posted by Marcello

Some combat load that I collected:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...ht=combat+load

Related to this topic.

I am checking total ammo loadouts for all T-54 and T-55's in the game and correcting the ones that deviate from the standard.

That said I am finding quite a few late model T-55's with less than the standard 43 total rounds and I'm wondering if in modernizing these things the ammo load was reduced somewhat ? I'm not having a lot of success finding any relevant info on this.


Don

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Originally Posted by DRG

That said I am finding quite a few late model T-55's with less than the standard 43 total rounds and I'm wondering if in modernizing these things the ammo load was reduced somewhat ? I'm not having a lot of success finding any relevant info on this.

Yes. Czechoslovak T-55AM1/2 Kladivo had 38 rounds due to FC system blocks (18 HE, 4 AP, 6 HEAT, 10 APDS). Polish T-55AM Merida had 41. I haven't found info on Soviet T-55M/AM with Volna, but it was probably the same case.

Michal

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Looking back on some notes and reviewing the OOB's it's looking like the Russian modernized t-55's are pegged at 37 rounds so I will set the lower limit at 37


Don

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Marcello

From what I recall from discussions on tanknet BK-5 - BK-5M had rather different performance, it was something like 280mm - 380mm (BK-5M incorporated a wave shaper). BK-5 was also available earlier, around 1958 or so.

I'm only quoting what is in publications:
- M. Pavlov and I. Pavlov in TiV 9/2008 write, that in 1961 there was introduced 3UBK4 cartridge with 3BK5 or 3BK5M rounds. Heat round could pierce 180mm inclined at 60deg (they don't write which one, but it looks like both were similar). There is no explanation of the difference, but in case of 76mm D-56, BK-354 had steel cone, while BK-354M had copper one (M for "myednaya" - copper). They repeated it in TiV 10/2008 on T-54 tank.
- authors of Bronekolektsya 4/2008 on T-55 tank even wrote, that 3BK5M was used in T-55 from 1963, and it penetrated 390mm.

Regards
Michal

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Originally Posted by DRG

Looking back on some notes and reviewing the OOB's it's looking like the Russian modernized t-55's are pegged at 37 rounds so I will set the lower limit at 37

I've just downloaded a Soviet military manual for T-55AM - and it states 42 rounds (including Bastion missiles).
The Czech Kladivo took 38 in total, with 5 Bastions (rarely) it was 33 (used also by East Germany).

Michal

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.........and that's what we have now. I'd forgotten to include the missles towards the ammo total when I ran the SQL that came up with 37 rounds
Don