OT: Chess

[WraithLord]

I meant candidate master (ELO > 2200).

[JonBrave]

I used to play as a kid, but with all the modern rules changes it's changed like NFL or soccer, or table-tennis.....

[thejeff]

Originally Posted by JonBrave

I used to play as a kid, but with all the modern rules changes it's changed like NFL or soccer, or table-tennis.....

Wait. The rules of chess have changed since you were a kid? How old are you?

[krpeters]

I used to play chess when I was younger, then got fed up with the lack of random starts. Memorizing series of opening moves is critical to playing the game, and a computer can do that better than people can.

Chess AIs would get brutalized by humans in a random starting position game.

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by thejeff

Wait. The rules of chess have changed since you were a kid? How old are you?

Well, like I said, look at what's changed in NFL (or even soccer), it's the same stuff. In the good old days, the Queen could jump over your own blocking piece on an even numbered move, now I gather they've taken that away.......

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by krpeters

I used to play chess when I was younger, then got fed up with the lack of random starts. Memorizing series of opening moves is critical to playing the game, and a computer can do that better than people can.

Chess AIs would get brutalized by humans in a random starting position game.

Yes, "memorizing" openings is not much of an issue for computers.

I believe there always have been "variants", wherein the positions of the pieces in the first rank are randomized. I doubt an computer chess would "adapt" to that, but on the grand scales of things, unless you're really good, I would guess they wouldn't get "brutalized", they'd do well enough after the first few moves.

[GFSnl]

I don't think a human is able to consistently outplay a computer anymore. Even with randomized openings.

Computers are notably weaker in closed positions. But even great chess players with an affinity for closed positions, like Kramnik, got their *** handed to them a couple of years ago.

Computers continue to double processing power every 2 years or so.
And with endgame tables now almost up to 8 pieces I'd say computers have soundly beaten the carbon based life forms on this planet .

[WraithLord]

Yes, but are the AI having fun?

Seriously, chess is a game and for normal human beings (& animals) games are a way to have fun while improving some skills. For AI, it's all just number crunching.

[GFSnl]

Your right of course.

Wish we had such A.I. available to sup in MP or to play against in SP in Dom 3 .

[Scaramuccia]

I think AI had fun analysing my game. I was playing French as black and done a stupid error allowing white 4 turn attack to take a queen. Both me and opponent missed this variation. Analyse looked like (computer suggestions to each player turn, by turn):
1)Bxg6 and white owns.
2)Defend against Bxg6 or you will be owned.
3)Bxg6 and you own, moron.
4)Idiot defend.
5)Bxg6, Bxg6.
6)Hey you have great chances but you must defend against Bxg6.
7)Now it is 3-turn combo maybe you will see it??
8)Or maybe you?
9)3 turn queen win, don't you forget it?
10)Ok I stop following this game. White ended this option by himself.