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Old January 16th, 2010, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

Isnt Paradox more of an advertising and shelfware company? Just having a game in GamersGate isnt going to create many new sales by itself. And if GamersGate involves "good faith" payments to join then thats probably why it wouldnt fit Shrapnels way of doing things. Shrapnel was started by a game developer specifically to avoid that business model as an alternative for the starter developers who dont have a following yet.

Shrapnel is more of a publicity and distributing market plan. Shrapnel does pretty good at publicity. Their games get covered in almost every game rating site. But publicity and distro dont involve laying out funds ahead of time and holding up profit checks for developers. Or worse yet having to gouge devs to cover lost funds on such experiments.
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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

if the devs aren't in it for the money, and don't want to take any risks to make money, then that makes sense.

but if devs are serious about being game developers as a living, then two-bit publicity and marketing won't get you anywhere, you NEED to shell out a little cash for someone with exposure and a real marketing team.

BTW, anyone can get covered in almost every game rating sites. Those sites are usually link farms, and it pays them to go looking for games themselves. That doesn't take publicity and marketing.
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Old January 16th, 2010, 07:31 PM
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if the devs aren't in it for the money, and don't want to take any risks to make money, then that makes sense.

but if devs are serious about being game developers as a living, then two-bit publicity and marketing won't get you anywhere, you NEED to shell out a little cash for someone with exposure and a real marketing team.
True enough. Actually a better plan is to go with P&D for the first game or two for capital and buildup a player base, then switch to a M&S for the later versions. And a number of developers have done that here (with questionable success on the gamble move). As far as the Dom3 devs you might have hit the button since they have said they arent in it for the money.

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BTW, anyone can get covered in almost every game rating sites. Those sites are usually link farms, and it pays them to go looking for games themselves. That doesn't take publicity and marketing.
So cynical. but not all of them are like that.
Not that it matters. It still pays off better than just placing a game with a digital distrib company. More people hit the game review sites, and then the purchase sites. Few hit the purchase sites first. Since the method of purchase is unlikely to affect much for this game its still a safe bet.
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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

I wonder if this topic is destined to be reincarnated every few months, or if it will ever end?
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Old January 17th, 2010, 09:03 AM

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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

Well, it should have a sticky. Seriously. I know another person I'm trying to get to buy this and they're a lil 'meh' on the snail-mail option.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 09:30 AM

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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

A sticky saying 'you can't get this via digital distribution' seems a bit pointless.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 09:34 AM

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...as opposed to people asking the question every once in a while..something a sticky is really meant to stop..s'ok. A sticky woulda stopped me from a 5 minute internet search anyway.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Why isn't there an online purchase?

You could always try in the FAQ sticky...

Second post, 6th question down, under the heading 'DIGITAL DOWNLOADS'.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 01:36 PM

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Sure, use LOGIC...lol. Oops?

EDIT- Lol, no wonder I didn't notice it, since the heading is something like 'MIRC and FAQ' which makes me read it as FAQ FOR MIRC CHANNEL. Hah.
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