earth grip - Page 2

Quitti · #1 November 17th, 2009, 05:26 AM

Don't bother with decay, use raise skeletons instead, or something similar. Tangle vines is also one such spell that immobilizes the target, as is false fetters should it hit the MR (which it doesn't against proper SC's). This is just one way of countering SCs easily with simple mages.

LDiCesare · #2 November 17th, 2009, 05:40 AM

The ai spellcasting priorities are sometimes weird. I remember once testing a fight and in order to get the effects I wanted, I had to remove water from the caster and unlearn one or two spells (I think all alteration and maybe some enchantment) before the ai would behave in the way I deemed best. Obviously, you can't unlearn spells or remove paths from your mages in a real game, so that seriously limits the reliability of spell casters beyond the 5th round.
In your test, did you have all spells researched or just enough that earth grip looked like the best spell?

Illuminated One · #3 November 17th, 2009, 08:05 AM

Hahaha, I can already see another guide.
Earth grip - how to win the game by not researching.
No seriously it is nothing that would unbalance the game even if spammed. Quickness (iirc) or some passive damage coupled with high prot gets an SC through it. Sending in another high hp unit (it doesn't need higher hp than the SC, just high enough, I don't know the formula) to act as decoy.
The main purpose against SC is that it drops defense so you can get some hits with heavy low attack weapons/troops in but you really have to do some awkward tricks for timing (since even assuming that an e2 mage would use it reliably, the fewest "lategame" i.e. mobile and durable mages are e2 only).

Folket · #4 November 17th, 2009, 09:28 AM

I have had a vampire queen killed by tangle vines. Or was it vine arrow. five N1 mages kept my VQ pinned down for 30 turn while they slowly eat away at her.

Benjamin · #5 November 18th, 2009, 04:32 AM

Work as in it can't be resisted, not work as an be efficient. I'm 98% sure eye of aiming and aim stack, for your future reference and benefit.

Redeyes · #6 November 18th, 2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Work as in it can't be resisted, not work as an be efficient. I'm 98% sure eye of aiming and aim stack, for your future reference and benefit.

I can verify that the two stack, at least on the paper doll.