Thug and SC Statistics

[Hadrian_II]

das123 said:
If you had to quantify what statistics/buffs for a Thug and also for a Super Combatant are minimum, average, maximum, and also a rating out of 5 for the importance of the statistic, what would they be? With buffs and items put in brackets the importance, once again, out of 5. The statistics are AFTER buff and items have been applied.

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SC

              MIN   AVG   MAX   IMPORTANCE

Hit Points    30    60    400   5

If you dont have much HP, you need really good protection

Protection    12    20    30    5

With low protection, you need mistform, without a prot of at least 20, so that swarming enemys dont hurt you too much.

Defence       10    14    20    1

Who cares for defence, you will be swarmed anyway

Magic Resist  18    22    30    5

Only use MR 18 agains non astral nations, the more the better

Strength      10    16    20    2

More strength more damage, but as must damage will come from AoE, it is not really important

Attack        14    18    21    2

Aoe hits always, and most SC chassis and weapons have high bonuses, so attack is not really an issue

Precision     8     11    15    1

SCs are not supposed to wield bows

Morale        13    18    50    3

Dont use low morale scs that dont fly so you dont suffer emberassing deaths

Encumbrance   0     0     2     5

SCs need fatigue 0, so encumbrance kills

Fatigue       0     0     0     5

there is no different option than 0

Move (Battle) 8     12    50    3

if it moves faster, it engages faster but wathever.



Buffs/Items

AoE Weapon (or lots of attacks)

High Protection

Poison Resistance

Fire Resistance

Cold Resistance

Shock Resistance

High MR

Luck

Body Ethereal

Mistform

Mirror Image

Soul Vortex

Regeneration

Reinvigoration

Quickness

Fire Shield

Astral Shield

Phoenix Pyre

Breath of Winter

Heat and Cold auras

and many more

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[Zeldor]

Hadrian_II:

I think SCs should have at least 40-50HP. With your ranking it would make Harbinger and SC and he certainly isn't one.

And it all misses the most important thing - magic skills to buff himself.

[thejeff]

Just to clarify/nitpick: SCs need some way to keep their fatigue from growing. That can be 0 encumbrance, it can be more reinvig than their encumbrance, it can be a life drain effect.

The buffs/items depend greatly on what your enemy is like and what your task is. For killing large numbers of chaff, AoE is nice, but what's really important is some kind of damage shield - Chill/heat aura, Fire Shield, soul Vortex, even Fear to rout them. And make sure your expected targets are vulnerable. Eg. undead are usually immune to Fear/Cold/life drain.

If he's an SC killer on the other hand, forget the area effect and go for multiple damage attacks. And all the buffs that help against chaff are wasted.

[JimMorrison]

You're right Tifone. I guess I just had my own Sniper class that I used in my head, and after awhile my own reasoning became some sort of law. But when I do these charts, I'll try to do 3 of them, for SC, melee Thug, and ranged sniper.

[Meglobob]

I love mistform on my thugs/sc's. Indeed H1 (for a bless), A2 (mistorm, mirror image) and E1 (stoneskin, ironskin) are all I ask for and make me very happy.

[Tifone]

Hey Jim you know, the Sniper definition seems appetible to me too ^^

[lch]

When I kit out my SCs I'm usually aiming for these things:

Flying
Low encumbrance
AoE weapon
Luck
High MR
High Protection
Mistform
Body Ethereal
Regeneration
Quickness
Fire Shield

through a combination of items and self-buffs.