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Old March 30th, 2007, 11:50 AM
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2 DRG: whether there Will be " speznaz group " AK ?
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Probably you know, 2B9 Vasilek it is an automatic mortar, instead of AT-gun.
But HEAT shells for it also are available, as this mortar can shoot on a direct trajectory.

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Mortars Calibre of 82 mm ordinarily are considered as arms of infantry, the 82-mm 2B9 "Cornflower" should be carried an automatic mortar to a category of artillery arms. First of all it is caused by fighting rate of fire 2B9, having very high value - up to 100 shots in a minute (rate of shooting makes 120 shots in a minute), and also its opportunity to fire a straight line and, thus to carry out the problem of artillery support and struggle with armored targets.
Ordinarily 2B9 it is established on the easy wheel gun carriage reminding a gun carriage of an easy field gun, equipped by beds and the pallet. In the middle the trunk is fixed in the rotating device similar to a drum, carrying out a role of the machine tool. The receiver of an ammunition of store type provides submission of 82-mm of mines from holders on four mines, inserted on the right. 2B9 can conduct hinged fire on an abrupt trajectory as a mortar, thus mines are charged manually from a barrel, or on a direct trajectory as the easy anti-tank gun (there is a sight for a direct aiming) with use to charge automatic fire through a state part from shop. In completion to all at to charge from a barrel there are three various types of throwing charges, but at to charge from a state part a charge unified. Force of feedback is absorbed by the hydroamortisation system established around of a trunk.
The 82-mm a mortar "Cornflower" also is established on self-propelled the chassis; the most widespread is installation in a body of 2-ton lorry GAZ-66 4�4. One more variant is installation of "Cornflower" on a cargo platform of in appropriate way modified caterpillar conveyor MT-LB. Hungary lets out a similar variant of the self-propelled installation also collected on the chassis of advanced conveyor MT-LB.
2B9 "Cornflower" is capable to fire in standard 82-mm an ammunition to a mortar; the weight of a mine makes about 3,1 kg. For shooting a straight line to aim on armored targets the special mine with a cumulative warhead is developed. The maximal range at shooting on a hinged trajectory makes 4200 meters.


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The unit you are referring to is MT-LB/2B9 unit number 591. The version in the Ukranian OOB is set up with Heat shells. The Russian and Hungarian versions are now set up the same way as well.

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Formation 265, Formations 266 "Vasilek" it is classified as " Light AT-gun ".

I suggest to make a class "Mortar".
As it first of all a mortar.

For example, in artillery of a battalion there are mortars the battery, where 6 Mortars 2B14 "Podnos" and 3 Mortar 2B9 "Vasilek" (strukture MSD-92).

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There are two versions of the Vasilek weapon in the current OOB. One (used on the MT-LB) has a range of 5km and can be used for indirect fire. Weapon number 29 has a shorter range and represents only direct-fire, line of sight fire (using HEAT shells). Unit 588 represents this use of the Vasilek as direct support only.
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It's one of the limitations of the game that has to be worked around. As I mentioned, the Ukrainian OOB has had the HEAT rounds assigned to the MT-LB/2B9 for who knows how long. Probably since it was designed. So far, it's not been an issue. Extreme range LOS are rarely a serious issue because it's rare to get a clear shot to the extreme range so mostly everything "works" I'll run some tests with this on the weekend and then decide what to do.

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" ...the 82-mm 2B9 "Cornflower"... "
And Tulpan, Gvozdika, Akatsiya. The Russian gives flower-power a new meaning.

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I ask to use this photo in WinSPMBT for a mortar "Vasilek".

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