No interface Improvements?

[onomastikon]

Oh no I did it again. Help!

I don't think my response to Dekent was particularily harsh, and I do think people are reporting their suggestions all over the board, without feeling particularily harassed. I am sorry if you feel I have stifled constructive criticism, I don't think so myself.

No, goodness, your post was exactly to the point and not harsh at all. It was not addressed to you whatsoever. I did have the feeling that other people found forms of constructive criticsm (unfortunately perhaps badly formulated like me and my English, so there is lots of room for misunderstanding) to be attacks on the developers.

Sorry for the misunderstanding again.

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Zen:
Just for Alex. Adjusting Battle Replay Speed!

Thats still the (one and only one) major gripe I have against doms II compared to doms I. Count me on the list too.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by onomastikon:
But in any case, I feel that people should also be able to post their questions and opinions about this if done in an appropriate manner. I also really honestly believe that this can also be read as a compliment (e.g. the game is very very varied and very very well-balanced as it is), and that devs and everybody here can and should welcome constructive criticism.

If you read back thru some of the older threads you will see that you are coming in on the tail end of some of us trying to train other people in how to ask for things. You definetly have not been the worst. Some got rather loud and rude about things they thought were "broken" and "must be fixed" along with other more insulting choice of words. So things that come up often now from some of us are comments about how the devs have "real jobs and families" and are working on things that they "find interesting" in their "free time" that Users have "requested". I dont really know for sure how much the devs agree with all that but it has made an obvious difference in which threads here they join in, no matter if the ideas are good ones or not.

[Gandalf Parker]

Hmmm I just had my own thought (maybe I should use that "search" in the upper-right of this screen first to see if anyone else has already suggested it)

Anyway, I was thnking that maybe the buttons for some things could change their text to provide info. It would save some button-pressing and make that main screen more informative.

Such as different text for the Mercenaries and Army Setup and Recruit.
Maybe Army Setup could change the color on that formation icon to green to show you that you have unassigned units.

Recruit could show red for things still in the queue so you know which ones arent building when you are viewing a province.

Mercenaries was the main thought. Maybe changing color or text such as
Mercenaries
no Mercenaries (meaning there are none avilable for hire)
due Mercenaries (or something to show that some are due for renewal)
Or maybe it could just be a plus and minus sign added to show hireable and due for rehire

[ January 13, 2004, 16:59: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[Dekent]

Well I paid 50$ for this game, plus S&H..thats more then most NORMAL full budget games I buy. So expecting the same line of support shouldn't be out of the question.

Now from the start when I received this game I was disappointed, even before I opened it up. (No jewel case?) Then after playing it, it really isn't Dom2 so much as Dom1.5...For every step forward there seemed to be a step backward, and at the end I felt Dom2 was just about the same as 1, and only continued to play it (2 over 1) due to the new races, which is a rather weak point considering I have only played about 4 of the orginal to any great extent so far.

Now I belive both Dom1 and Dom2 are execellent games, and I have received more fun for my buck then any other nonblizzard game I have played. I still have my orginal dom1 folder floating around, 3 years old as it is and being bumped around from various HDs and partitions, I can't say that about ANY other game =)

Yesterday I was rather jaded, I have been very busy IRL and was settling down to relax and play some Dom2. The patch was out, I jumped for joy, oh boy...it screwed up my old save game which was nearing turn 200 and I was preparing to launch a final attack againt Jot (his dominion was swallowing me but I had most of the provinces)

"Well let's start over, I can play around with the mod tools and see what I can do....lets see....*opens up manual*..not working yet...not working yet...not working yet....but hey! I can add units to a nation, this might be fun, oh and customize units, that can be interesting too...*makes a few test lines, launches and adds mod*....well at least it didn't crash..lets fire up my good ol starting map....hmmm what? 'Abyssia has cheated! Ermor has Cheated! Ulm has Cheated! Pangaea has Cheated!' ack what is that....wait where did all these arch mage....GAAAAH!!"

Ok now I realize im ranting, but im still off my rocker ;p

I don't play Dom to win, I don't play multiplayer on it, I play it to have FUN, like I play almost all my games. Of the 70 or so games I have played (all vs cpu) I reckon I have won about..3. Most of the time I quit when I'm about to win, however more often then not it is because I lose. Now I don't consider myself a bad player, I just tend to give the CPU huge advantages including custom gods and scales, and large starting armies, or against ermor, let em expand and become their giant jugernaught selves.

Unfortually the patch has killed all my current work in this area, and since gods and scales have to be 'legit' now, it killed my primary means of having fun in this game. Odds are I'm just going to play with the mod tools some then reinstall (or am I able to make multiple installs of this game?) and go back to my old ways, I'm not quite sick of em yet =)

I hope all this helps yall understand why I often come off as being very cynical or demanding around here. I really do like the game and respect Illwinter for their hard work when they already have so much to do. I would just like it if the game didn't try to make me NOT like it so much =)

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by Zen:

With that said; I'm sure a new wish list for a future patch will be surfacing soon; and I'm sure they already have in mind their list of priorities to patch as soon as they can.

Just for Alex. Adjusting Battle Replay Speed!

Of course there is a list .

I would love to have the battle speed adjustable, for my sake as well as Alex's, but is is not feasible until the bugged battle replays are fixed, and that is an elusive bug. Unless the new suggestions regarding cross-OS-dunno-what give JK some good imput I do not think it will be easily solved. Unless the new imput is right it is not a bug in the battle, but generated earlier in the game, making it rather difficult to trace.

[Kristoffer O]

Sorry about your cheating gods .

We intended to make a feature that increased playability. As we came across a problem of cheating in MP games we thought that it would be a good idea to disable or reduce the cheating opportunities. Of course we do not care if SP's cheat.

[Dekent]

CUSTOM gods damnit ;p

How about this...leave the message in, but remove the part where they get turned into archmages. That way multiplayer people know whats going on AND it doesn't affect single player =)

[Kuroth1]

Originally posted by Dekent:
Now from the start when I received this game I was disappointed, even before I opened it up. (No jewel case?)

Now that is interesting to me... This tells me that you did not even read what you were ordering... I just ordered the game Last week(received it yesterday)... It clearly states that you will receive the manual shrieked wrapped with the CD inside... If it is really that big of a deal, email me your address and I will mail you a jewel case...

[Riley]

Originally posted by Dekent:
CUSTOM gods damnit ;p

How about this...leave the message in, but remove the part where they get turned into archmages. That way multiplayer people know whats going on AND it doesn't affect single player =)

Good idea.
You can immediately know who is cheating without hurting SP.