PBW "newbie game" - Page 16

Puke · #**151** July 11th, 2001, 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by Baal:
Sneak attacks are best.

No one is ever your ally or even friendly.

That's my view.

I tend to disagree. while I may have been caught recently making a 'preemptive strike' in another game, they are generally not a good idea. especially if you get a reputation for doing it, and you end up in a game where you need alies but no one trusts you. I find my self wishing now that I had waitied a turn or so after a declaration of war before entering the target system with my fleet, as it probably would have left me with more friends in the long run. just as in the real world, war crimes dont (often) go unpunished (when they are not in the best interests of a major industrial power). I guess I was just lucky that all the major industrial powers in said game were able to see things my way.

I have to say, I think these newbie games are great, and hope that they continue on a regular basis, as they are churning out our future experienced players. I think most of you guys are already in other games as well, but this is as good a time as any to voice a little community support.

capnq · #**152** July 11th, 2001, 03:38 PM

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I find my self wishing now that I had waitied a turn or so after a declaration of war before entering the target system with my fleet, as it probably would have left me with more friends in the long run.

In my game in Geo's Survivor Tournament, I'm playing an Honorable Warrior race, the Rrurrr. We started off making a Trade Alliance with the first aliens we encountered, the Empire of Night, and eventually upgraded to Trade & Research. Our second contact, the Spoo, looked weaker, so we only agreed to Non-Aggression, not wanting to bolster our most likely enemy. (The first round games have See Allied Scores turned on, so I knew EoN was in 1st place.) When we ran out of unclaimed systems to expand into, we decided to expel the Spoo from the border system which we had colonized first, and sieze the two colonies the Spoo had placed there later. Rrurrr Honor demanded that we warn the Spoo to leave the system, and warn the EoN that we were going to seize their Partner's colonies.

We were completely surprised when the EoN decided to side with the Spoo rather than us. We seized the two Spoo colonies with almost no resistance, but the EoN has proceeded to glass several Rrurrr worlds in response.

The resulting war has been pretty grim for the Rrurrr, but Honor demands that we fight to the Last.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

[This message has been edited by capnq (edited 11 July 2001).]

Baal · #**153** July 11th, 2001, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Dragonlord:
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I just lost two LC's to Baal's minelayer. All along I thought it was an observer ship Now I find out he layed mines all over the contested system. The Nostro will pay for this !
Allies, please join me in the mourning of my lost crewmen :-(

Sucks doesn't it when you lose ships when you do not expect it.

EDIT: Anyway you must have been trying to attack a lone ship that had no back up, quite dishonorable. Kind of like your treachorous attack on our planet in Prenix.

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Dragonlord · #**154** July 12th, 2001, 04:13 AM

Dishonorable?!!!

I have been trying to rid myself of the terrorist guerilla ship that lays mines all over MY system ! Jees, how many mines did you stuff into that LC before you sent it to the front? It must have launched at least 50 already, since I know it launches 10 per turn and there's minefields all over.

Odd though, my turn's movement gets executed before yours does (I think) but if I send in a ship to attack the minelayer, the minelayer has always somehow managed to launch mines in its own sector before my ship gets to it. Hmm...
Anyway, I'll be rid of it soon enough, with an enforced sweeper fleet on the way.

capnq · #**155** July 13th, 2001, 04:26 AM

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Odd though, my turn's movement gets executed before yours does (I think) but if I send in a ship to attack the minelayer, the minelayer has always somehow managed to launch mines in its own sector before my ship gets to it.

That sounds like your ship is catching the minelayer before it can leave the sector where it dropped the mines Last turn.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

CaptSpoogy · #**156** July 13th, 2001, 05:56 PM

Players of Newbie game - It's my first anniversary this weekend, so I might be a little limited in getting lots of turns in. I'll try my best to sneak in as many as I can...

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Dragonlord · #**157** July 13th, 2001, 05:59 PM

I just love these struggles between humans, Baal is deploying tricks an AI would never do !
My primary fleet finally wrested control of the contested system, and has moved past the wormhole in the direction of Baal's systems.
What we found was an empty system (just asteroids) with two wormholes leading into unexplored space. One wormhole had a single ship (from Baal) sitting on it, so I figured aha ! that way must lie his empire. I proceed to spend two turns moving towards, then killing that ship and warping through.
All I find in the next system is again...asteroids. So now I'm thinking that I should have gone through the other wormhole, and his ship was just a sacrificial decoy to lure me in the wrong direction to buy him time to build better defenses.

Baal, am I right?

Oh well, at least something came of it, buy moving into the wrong (?) system I finally made first contact with the fourth and Last human player in this game, Phoenix.
Phoenix is ranked 3rd or 4th, while Baal is 1st and I am 2nd. It will be interesting to see if Phoenix will choose a side in the war I'm in...or stays noncomittal in the hope we weaken ourselves enough for him to step in.

Ya gotta love this game in multiplayer.

Dragonlord · #**158** July 13th, 2001, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by capt_spoogy:
Players of Newbie game - It's my first anniversary this weekend, so I might be a little limited in getting lots of turns in. I'll try my best to sneak in as many as I can...

That's actually good news for me, I have friends staying over on friday and saturday, maybe even sunday, and will have almost no time to play in any of my PBW games. Will do anything I can to avoid having the AI play my turns, may even request a turn-upload extension from the host, but I hope it won't be necessary.

Happy anniversary !

Ouch that reminds me, our 3-year anniversary is next week and I really should start preparing some activities/gifts for that.

Baal · #**159** July 13th, 2001, 06:57 PM

I have to ask, what tactics am I using that the AI doesn't use?

EDIT: Good for you Spoogy, I think we should all take the day off then. Leave you to your life for a little while.

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Dragonlord · #**160** July 15th, 2001, 06:33 AM

Baal:
Well for one thing you are trading with the neutral AI in the frontier system so that you always have an observer ship there.
And you lay mines where the AI wouldn't.

I also noticed that you just built a big fleet, you must have thought "hey if my weapons are inferior I can beat him through numbers". Will be an interesting fight.
You produced em fast though, did you put your entire empire on emergency build or something?