Anomaly reports

[Richard_H]

The Self-Propelled stuff.

Class 18 – Assault Gun

SU-76M – Russia 471 and Bulgaria 22 have Steel TR 2, standard is 1.

SU-85 – N.Yemen 50 has Speed 17, standard is 19.

SU-100 – Afghanistan 315-318, Angola 33 and S.Yemen 41 have Speed 19, standard is 17.

SU-100M – Iraq 346 has Survivability 4, standard is 3.

ISU-122 - Iraq 347 & 348 have Size 5, others have 4.
Viet Cong 35 has Survivability 5, standard is 3. It also has Armour 14/10/7/12/10/7/3, standard is 14/9/8/9/8/8/3.

Archer – S.Yemen 40 has Size 4 and Survivability 4, standards are 3/3.

M10 Achilles – Belgium 390 & 391 have Size 5 and Survivability 4, standard is 4/3.

M18 Hellcat – Yugoslavia 26 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M36 Jackson – Belgium 392 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.


Class 21 – Self-Propelled Artillery

75mm M20 (and derivatives) – Viet Cong 45 has RoF 6, standard is 7.

107mm B-11 – Uganda 63 has RoF 7, standard is 6.

M77 Dana – Czech 541 has Survivability 5, standard is 4.

AMX Mk.61 – Netherlands 76 has Speed 22, standard is 17.

AMX Mk.F3 – Netherlands 77 has Crew 4, all others have 8.
France 47 and Sudan 237 have Survivability 4, standard is 3.
France 47 and Gulf 235 have Steel TF 4, standard is 2.

AUF-1 – Gulf 239, Iraq 357 and Saudi 238 have RoF 4, standard is 6.

Krab – Poland 37 has RoF 8. Nearest comparison is the UK AS-90, which has 4.

Koksan 170mm – Iran 46 has Size 5, standard is 6. It also has RoF 4, standard is 2.

SU-76 – N.Korea 275 has TR Armour 2, standard is 1.

2S1 Gvozdika – Sudan 238 has Size 5, standard is 4. It also has Speed/Swim Speed 18/0, standard is 21/2. Although some forums call the Abu Fatima a licence-built version, according to SIPRI they are a straight purchase from Belarus. This would make the armour rating spurious (it would be correct if the story of a D-30 turret on a T-55 chassis could be verified).
Finland 327 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Sudan 238 has RoF 5, standard is 6.
Russia 500 has Hull Armour 2/1/1, standard is 3/2/1.

2S3 Akatsiya – Russia 501-503 have Speed 20, standard is 18. They also have RoF 4, standard is 5.
Bulgaria 40 has Survivability 3, NVA 40 and Cuba 211 have 5, standard is 4.
Russia 501-503 have Steel TF 3, standard is 4.

2S5 Giatsint – Ukraine 505 has Speed 18, standard is 21. It also has Armour 2/1/1/2/1/1/1, standard is 3/1/1/3/1/1/0.

2S7 Pion – Poland 38 has Size 5, standard is 6.
Russia 812 and Kenya 61 have RoF 2, others have 3.

Bkv 151 – Sweden 414 has RoF 14. Should it be 4?

3.7” Portee – Egypt 335 has RoF 7, Sudan 235 has 6. Standard from WW2 is 6.

Sexton – India 104, Tanzania 60 and Uganda 60 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

Jeep (and derivatives) – Libya 365, Cambodia 276-279 and Uganda 61-63 have Size 3, standard is 2.

M12 GMC – Taiwan 37 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M37 – USA 511 has Survivability 3, Spain 76 has 4.

M40 – France 35 has Size 8, Italy 70 has 4, standard is 6.
Italy 70 has Survivability 3, standard is 2.
France 35 has Armour 7/3/1/2/1/1/0, Italy 70 has 6/4/4/3/2/2/1, standard is 9/4/4/3/2/2/0.

M44 – W.Germany 116 has Size 4, Jordan 302 has 5, standard is 6.
Italy 72 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M52 – Italy 71 has Size 4, Turkey 86 has 6, standard is 5.
Portugal 34 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.
W.Germany 115 has Armour 20/9/5/2/1/1/1, Japan 61 and Portugal 34 have 2/1/1/2/1/1/1, standard is 4/2/2/2/1/1/1.

M55 – Belgium 43 has Size 4, USMC 39 has 5, standard is 6.
W.Germany 117 has Armour 20/9/5/2/1/1/1, standard is 4/2/2/2/1/1/1.

M107 – NVA 41 has Survivability 2, Greece 95, Turkey 93, Spain 83, Italy 74 and W.Germany 101 have 3, standard is 4.
USMC 878 has RoF 3, standard is 4. It also has no ‘turret’ armour, standard is 4/3/3/0.
Netherlands 78, Greece 95 and Spain 83 have Top Armour 1, standard is 0.

M108 – USA 36 and Australia 336 have no Swim Speed, standard is 2. They also have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
NVA 42 and ARVN 22 have Top Armour 1, standard is 2.

M109 – Denmark 40 has RoF 6, standard is 4.

M109A2/A3 – Portugal 35 & 36 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Denmark 41 has RoF 6, Israel 516 has 5, standard is 4.

M110/M110A1 – Belgium 44, Netherlands 83, Greece 98 and W.Germany 104 have Survivability 3, Taiwan 44 has 5, standard is 4.
Japan 56 has Top Armour 1, standard is 0.
USMC 879 has no ‘Turret’ armour, standard is 4/3/3.

M110A2 – Pakistan 217, Netherlands 84, Greece 97, Turkey 95, Spain 84 and W.Germany 105 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Japan 57 and Turkey 95 have Top Armour 1, standard is 0.


Class 39 – SP Gun

82mm B-10 – E.Germany 720 has RoF 9, standard is 7.

107mm Rocket – Mujahadeen 146 has RoF 1, Afghanistan 155 has 9. Both have the same primary weapon.

BRDM-2 – Afghanistan 154 has RoF 9, standard for the AT-3 is 4.

ISU-122 – Sizes are split almost evenly: Poland 709 & 710, Iraq 572 & 573 and Red 512 have 5, NVA 409 & 410, Hungary 25 and Viet Cong 25 have 4.
NVA 409 & 410 and Viet Cong 25 have Survivability 5, standard is 3.
Poland 709 & 710 have RoF 5, standard is 6.
Viet Cong 25 has Armour 14/10/7/12/10/7/3, Poland 709 & 710 have 19/9/9/10/8/6/3 (same as ISU-152), standard is 14/9/8/9/8/8/3.

ISU-152 – Poland 27 and Iraq 574 have Size 5, standard is 4.
Syria 302 has Survivability 5, standard is 3.

SU-76 – Poland 704, China 510 and N.Korea 460 have Steel TR 2, others have 1.

SU-85 – E.Germany 24 and Algeria 525 have 9/6/6/8/6/4/2, Czech 24 has 10/6/6/9/6/4/2, Poland 705 and Red 509 have 8/6/6/9/5/5/2, which is the standard for my version (I’m missing the latest patch) of WW2. My
suspicion is that once it’s run through AP Calc, the E.German figure will be the closest.
I’m not mentioning Load Costs (10-29).

SU-100 – E.Germany 26 and Viet Cong 28 have Speed 15, Viet Cong 27 has 19, standard is 17. I suspect the first two are SU-100Ms, as they have the 14.5mm AAMG.
Viet Cong 27 & 28 have Survivability 4, standard is 3.

SU-100M – Syria 300 has Speed 17, standard is 15.
Algeria 527 has Survivability 4, standard is 3.

Archer – Gulf 490 has Size 4 and Survivability 4, standards are 3/3.

Jeep RCL (including GAZ/UAZ) – Nigeria 220, Eritrea 220-222, Tanzania 220 & 221 and Uganda 220, 222 & 223 have Swim Speeds. No other Jeeps have this.
S.Yemen 226 & 227, Eritrea 220-222 and the Ugandan units have Speed 29, Denmark 337 has 21, Argentina 84 has 26, standard is 24.
Libya 225, Tanzania 220 & 221 and Uganda 220, 222 & 223 have Size 3, standard is 2.

M10 Achilles – Egypt 321 has Armour 6/3/3/8/3/3/0, standard is 7/3/2/9/3/3/0.

M36 Jackson – Iran 414 and Italy 34 have Size 5, standard is 4. They also have Speed 15, standard is 16.

M113 RCL – S.Korea 451-453 have the AAMG in Weapon Slot 1, but retain RoF 6.
Pakistan 206 (same platform) has Size 2, standard is 3.


Class 130 – Self-Propelled Howitzer

Abbot – UK 401 has Size 4, Libya 355 has 5.

Jeep RCL – Nigeria 371 & 372 have Size 3, standard is 2.
Jordan 298 has Speed 21, standard is 24.

Sexton – S.Yemen 235 has RoF 6, standard is 7.


Class 139 – Self-Propelled Gun

UK 238 & 239 have Nation 0. 239 is a template unit.

Richard H

[DRG]

.....apparetly you are not set up to receive PMs.......

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Richard_H

2S1 Gvozdika – Sudan 238 has Size 5, standard is 4. It also has Speed/Swim Speed 18/0, standard is 21/2.

By the way, Gvozdika shouldn't carry any AAMG.

Michal

[DRG]

Well the Russian one doesn't have it so why not tell me which OOB you are looking at so I don't have to guess?? MAYBE it's Sudan... maybe not...IDK and *MAYBE* the Abu Fatima-1 is a Gvozdika but that's not the Gvozdika Icon, it's a PTZ-89 so maybe it does carry a AAMG becasue the Chinese one does.

There are error reporting procedures in the sticky section. Please read them. It makes things much clearer for everyone

Thanks

Don

[Richard_H]

Don, PM received and responded to.

Richard H

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by DRG

Well the Russian one doesn't have it so why not tell me which OOB you are looking at so I don't have to guess?? MAYBE it's Sudan... maybe not...IDK and *MAYBE* the Abu Fatima-1 is a Gvozdika but that's not the Gvozdika Icon, it's a PTZ-89 so maybe it does carry a AAMG becasue the Chinese one does.

Sorry - most Gvozdikas in oobs that I've examined in detail already had AAMG, so I thought it was a common mistake. Anyway, I thought, that this is the thread for mass anomalies through oobs, so it's a good place to report this one. There is AAMG in Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Libyan, East German (SFL M-1974), Yugoslavian and maybe also other oobs.

I didn't refer to Fatima-1 at all.

Regards,
Michal

[DRG]

Didn't get it.....

Don


OK Got it now..........

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

Sorry - most Gvozdikas in oobs that I've examined in detail already had AAMG, so I thought it was a common mistake. Anyway, I thought, that this is the thread for mass anomalies through oobs, so it's a good place to report this one. There is AAMG in Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Libyan, East German (SFL M-1974), Yugoslavian and maybe also other oobs.

I didn't refer to Fatima-1 at all.

Regards,
Michal

Richard referred to it and I first checked the country of origin and it didn't have one so rather than make more work than I need I thought it best to point out that to get things fixed I need clear information

Don

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Richard_H

2S1 Gvozdika – Sudan 238 has Size 5, standard is 4. It also has Speed/Swim Speed 18/0, standard is 21/2.

I'm spending way too much time on this but after reviewing what we had that unit ( Sudan 238 ) IS NOT a Gvozdika. It's **REPORTEDLY** a cobbled together vehicle from D-30 artillery pieces mounted on T-54/55 chassis and that Icon was used because it's rarely used anywhere else and was "close enough" for something no photos seem to exist.......and it just might have an AAMG.... or not...but it's not a Gvozdika but since it's a gun mounted on a t-55 size five is "close enough".

However, I have noted the issue with the Gvozdika AAMG's but I can assure everyone there is NO way all of these issues will be addressed one way or the other before the next release.


Don

[Richard_H]

Sorry about that one, forgot to check the icon.

Armoured Cars etc. BTW I'm working on the premise that all vehicles should still be at least Weight 10.

Class 11 – Armoured Cars

Israel 90 & 91, Turkey 49, S.Africa 12 & 13, Switzerland 897, Cambodia 485, Nigeria 285, Finland 365 & 366 and Indonesia 474 & 478 have Load Cost less than 10.

Switzerland 872 has RoF 3, standard is 9.

Italy 40 has Crew 1. I think the correct figure is 3.

EE-3 Jaracara – Cyprus 21 has Speed 28, standard is 34.

EE-9 Cascavel – Green 55-57, Ecuador 52 and Paraguay 21 have Speed 20, standard is 28.

Marmon-Herrington – Egypt 259 has a third weapon, but no ammunition.

BTR-60 – Cuba 306 has RoF 9, standard is 6.

V-150 – Portugal 339 has Crew 1, standard is 3.


Class 32 – Scout Vehicle

Poland 400, 699 & 724, France 71, USA 326 & 328, USMC 550, China 461, Australia 56, Iraq 289, India 220, Pakistan 64, Netherlands 45-47, Canada 169, Greece 625 & 626, Spain 190 & 191, Italy 216-219, Denmark 344, Czech 400, Hungary 398, Green 303, Switzerland 52, Cambodia 496, Chile 298 & 299, Nigeria 308 and Peru 298 have Load Cost less than 10.

YJL – Egypt 483 has RoF 90, standard is 9.

AB3 Black Iris – Jordan 345 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

BRDM-2 Szakal – Poland 579 has HEAT Armour 33 all round. Seems a lot without a speed reduction for weight.

Santana Anibal – Spain 610 & 611 have RoF 0, standards are 9 & 4 respectively.

Humber Scout – France 72 has Speed 24, Norway 25 has 30.

Daimler Dingo – Kenya 303 and Tanzania 303 have Armour 4/1/2/3/1/2/0, standard is 1/1/1/1/1/1/0.

Land-Rover – PLO 312, Mujahadeen 292 and Afghanistan 292 have RoF 6, standard is 9.

Shorland – Malaysia 16 has Size 4 and Speed 18, standards are 2/24.
Thailand 289 has Survivability 1, others have 4.

M3 Halftrack – Iran 451 and Gulf 308 have Speed 18, standard is 24.

M8 Greyhound – Uruguay 415 has Speed 27, standard is 20.

WC.52 – ARVN 142 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

Lynx – Canada 169 has Armour 7/4/2/7/4/2/1, standard is 4/3/2/4/3/2/1.



Class 57 – FO Vehicle

USMC 226, Australia 229, India 256, Pakistan 234, Turkey 216 & 219, Spain 307 & 308, S.Africa 381, Thailand 215, Ethiopia 544 and Sweden 76, 77 & 109 have Load Cost less than 10.

W.Germany 123 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

Observation Truck – Jordan 415 and Saudi 315 have RoF 6, standard is 9.

BRM-23 – Bulgaria 201 has RoF 4, standard is 8.

AMX-10 – Iraq 396 has Speed 24, Chile 225 has 25, standard is 21.

UAZ-469 – Cuba 391, Algeria 470, Angola 391, Nigeria 391, Eritrea 391 and Uganda 391 have RoF 6, standard for AAMG is 9.

Daimler Dingo – Ethiopia 546 has Armour 4/1/2/3/1/2/0, standard is 1/1/1/1/1/1/0.

Ferret – UK 302, Green 227 and Malaysia 72 have Size 4, standard is 2.

Spartan – Belgium 224 has RoF 4, standard is 9.

Jeep – Kenya 391 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

M3 Halftrack – Iran 472 and Gulf 317 have Speed 18, standard is 24.

M4 Sherman – France 538 has RoF 7, standard is 9.

M577 – Spain 310 & 312 have Size 4, Speed 31 and Swim Speed 3, standards are 3/23/2. They are also the only armed versions apart from Italy 405, and have Armour 3/2/1/3/2/1/1 (as do Norway 57 and Italy 405), standard is 5/4/3/5/4/3/2. Special Spanish version?


Class 108 – Heavy Armoured Car

EE-9 Cascavel – Brazil 470 has RoF 6, standard for the 37mm is 8.

AML-90 – Argentina 555 has Survivability 2, standard is 4.

Richard H