The Council of Wyrms

[RonD]

Morkilus said:
Nice. So, do Pythium and Man wish to join in as well? All together now!

You were the one who had to have his big brother fight for him.

[Sedna]

As a point of order: who decides what a proposition really means? I know there's a process to bring a matter to the chief justice, but is that the first option, or a last resort?

I ask because I'm trying to decipher what Proposition 43 + 39 really mean. My current interpretation is that nothing Vanheim or I do to each other can trigger 39 since authorization for that war came under 40 which exempts 39. However, though Ermor has not directly attacked one of my provinces, the language of 39 is: "shall attack or engage in war against". Proposition 43 is Ermor entering into (i.e. engaging) war against me, and thus I believe he is already a valid target for PP39.

Well, I shall post that on the wiki section and you can comment there, but I'd appreciate any "out-of-character/disinterested" opinions also.

[djo]

Sedna said:
As a point of order: who decides what a proposition really means?

Facetious answer: yes, another proposition!

Serious observation: quite often the discussion here and there reveals what the consensus reading of a proposition is. A follow-up proposition would probably enforce it.

The wyrmly answer: Jacques would like to see an attack (the declaration isn't enough); Jack thinks you don't have to wait for a threat to become a poke in the eye before you act. Marignon would probably abstain, split vote.

[Wish]

eh, I do not wish to war against c'tis and vanhiem and welcome all comers like ermor does. I just don't want to see all that wonderful c'tisian land fall to such as ermor, who already has plenty of land, while I sit and watch and remain small.

Personally I voted for 39 as a deterent, for the added threat it brings on being attacked, not out of support for a clearly insane proposition. I almost want to propose to have it repealed.

Anyway for my own propositions I would like to maintain the increased threat posed by prop 39 to the arcosephale/ulm conflict, and handle my personal conflicts in a traditional manner.

[Cainehill]

*yawn* Can someone let me know who we can attack now? We're bored, and since we died of indigestion we haven't eaten a proper meal/army.

Vyrmin

[Ygorl]

Cainehill, here you go:
http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/W...title=Treaties


I need turns from Abysia, C'tis, Jotunheim, Mictlan, T'ien Ch'i, and Vanheim.

[Ygorl]

Abysia, Ermor, and T'ien Ch'i still have outstanding turns. I'll host tonight or sooner if I get all three.

[The Panther]

Proposition 46, End of Pangaea Exile, is up for consideration.

http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/W...=Proposition46

[Wish]

btw I want it to be known that I did not seige C'Tis' capitol and thus am not targetable via prop 39, One of my sneaky types were found, and subsequently won.

[Ygorl]

And Ermor had better send me (and others!) 21 gems this coming turn, or things will get *really* hairy...