No Diplo EA Game - No Wankers Allowed - Game Over, Baalz/Abysia Wins

[Marmaduke]

Well, this game could last many months. It is not too late to change our pretenders accordingly in order to benefit from the up to date mod.
No big deal going with 1.6 as planned, though. Executor?

[Calahan]

I don't know, I go off the scene for a few days and the entire game disappears

My understanding is that the 'llamaserver disappearing game' trick is connected to the map naming somehow, and the options for fixing it are to either PM llama and wait until he can fit sorting it out into his busy schedule. Or take the initiative and just re-create the game.

I'm disappearing again now for a few days (only here now as I had to come into work for a few hours). Should be back before the weekend to resume admin duties here.


I would strongly advise against using CBM 1.7 as well. It seems to me to need a fair bit of testing due to some of the major changes it has made, and a game this size with this many players is not the place for testing, as some nations could be seriously disadvantaged due to the changes, and have their chances ruined due to no fault of the player(s). (and basic beta testing can be done in small quick throw-away games)

[Executor]

I don't think switching to CBM 1.7 is a good idea, it is still in beta and it has a far too big impact on some of the nations. I dislike the idea of adding a mod that hasn't been tested and used yet. And not to mention it would take additional time to test and recreate some nations pretenders.

I've PM'd Llama yesterday and from the likes of it he still hasn't seen the PM. I understand he's a busy man and given the fact we could be waiting for him for a while it might be better to just recreate the game and resend all pretenders?
Quick thoughts everyone? Recreate or wait for Llama?

[Kobal2]

Can't we do both ? If llama pipes up before all pretenders are up on the new game, good. If not, we roll with the new game. Either way, we get going as fast as possible and the workload is roughly the same for llama.

Or did I miss something ?

(oh, and count me out too on the new CBM. Too many untested changes, balance could be all wonky and we'd find out in two months. No thanks.)

[Executor]

Kobal2 has recreated the game for us since I can't access Llamaserver's map browser for some reason.
While we wait for Llama to respond, you should all resend pretenders, the new game name is 'No_Wankers_Allowed', and we'll see which way is faster.

Cheers.

[Executor]

Originally Posted by llamabeast

Indeed! Please do not upload a map with spaces in the name. It might accept it (which is a somewhat mysterious bug), but instead of starting, your game will disappear, and then I will have to go and fix it.

Well I think this answers the question why the game vanished.
I'll get someone to upload the map under a different name and I guess it should work this time.

Please send pretenders.

[llamabeast]

Hello! Was going to look into it tonight, but yes, sounds like that was the problem. Sorry about that.

Maybe I will use the time I would have spent following this up on finally fixing the bug once and for all (i.e. making it refuse to accept such maps rather than allowing people to spend time uploading pretenders etc before disappearing).

[Executor]

Actually Llama, I just noticed that the map had an underscore not a space in between, does that matter? 'Alexander_NWA'
In any case, should we precede sending pretenders or can it be fixed?

[Herode]

Well, resending pretenders is not a big deal, is it ? ^^

[llamabeast]

Executor: In that case, I'm not sure why it failed. I didn't look into it in the end last night (accidentally played Minecraft till 1am instead!).

I'd suggest continuing with the plan of:
- You guys start re-uploading pretenders
- I will try to look into what happened before. I'm not very reliable at the moment though, as I rarely seem to get much computer time what with one thing and another.