MP: ANDalusian Sun: Lolomo wins after more than 2 years of gruelling competition!

[Colonial]

Hello guys.

I'm a noob, but have had the idea kicking around the back of my head for a while to write up a LP of a veterins game with a target audience of the more committed set of new players who might want to become veterins one day (as it stands, the only LPs available are of newbie games aimed at people thinking of buying the game). This game looks like a nice opportunity to go for it. the plan would be to compile information while the game is im progress, and only begin to publish the LP after the game has finished.

To do this I would need 1-3 of you lot to volunteer to my new-player analysis (I would write up the one who survives longest), and then send me an email every turn including: both parts of the turn file (for before and after) and a quick summery of what messages you sent. I would also need you're pretender file at the beginning of the game.

you'd get your name in lights for no effort on your part, and we as a community would get a good resource for noobs to make their game more rigorous.

If other players are ok with this, my email address is in the database.

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by NooBliss

Well... Having looked at the holy war mod again, I like it even less than before. If it's not too late to sign out, I'd like to do so.

If that will cause you guys to waste time looking for another player, I can stay tho.

Since we haven't started yet, I see no reason to stop you. Little point joining a game when you prefer other settings. Confirm your decision fast though, since it will affect Calahans Capital-fixing work.

Originally Posted by Calahan

I can't say I'm too fond [...]the changes CBM 1.8+ has made (to 1.6). But I promised myself I'd try one game with CBM 1.8+ to see if I liked it[...]

Pretty much the same for me, though less empathically than in your case I think. Let's see what 1.8 brings.

Originally Posted by Calahan

Although if there is a 11th hour vote to remove Holy Wars, then I would raise my hand in favour. (although that's probably unlikely now that the nations are decided)

Yeah, probably a bad idea after nation picks. I don't really have an oppinion about the mod yet, allthough the fact that it (supposedly) pays off to site-search holy now alone gives it a plus in my books.

Originally Posted by Calahan

@ Dimaz/Sasooli - Can on of you please post the final list of nations, as I need to know what nations are in the game to arrange the map. Although just saying "No Marignon, R'yleh or Atlantis" or "Just R'yleh" will also be good enough if you don't want to give out the full list for whatever reason.

I had originally asked Sasooli to only PM players their own nation and a full list to Dimaz thinking it would allow till game start for late signups. Capital fixing obviously changes that and I intended to ask Sasooli to just post/let you know a full nation list so you could get to work on the map, but I seem to not have gotting around to it somehow.

Originally Posted by WraithLord

how much time do we have to test builds?

I'd say we start saturday at the earliest, allthough with Calahan having to wait for nation confirmation to fix the map, having to wait for the map to start the game, and then waiting for all pretenders to be sent in it might run a bit later.

[Sasooli]

I believe I've told Calahan what he needs to know.

He suggested I post the full nation list here anyway, partly so people aren't tempted to leave Pretender design until the last minute so they can look at who else is playing. I'm happy to do that if Damiz and Amhazair have no objection?

[Amhazair]

Sure, go ahead I'd say.

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by Colonial

Hello guys.

I'm a noob, but have had the idea kicking around the back of my head for a while to write up a LP of a veterins game with a target audience of the more committed set of new players who might want to become veterins one day (as it stands, the only LPs available are of newbie games aimed at people thinking of buying the game). This game looks like a nice opportunity to go for it. the plan would be to compile information while the game is im progress, and only begin to publish the LP after the game has finished.

To do this I would need 1-3 of you lot to volunteer to my new-player analysis (I would write up the one who survives longest), and then send me an email every turn including: both parts of the turn file (for before and after) and a quick summery of what messages you sent. I would also need you're pretender file at the beginning of the game.

you'd get your name in lights for no effort on your part, and we as a community would get a good resource for noobs to make their game more rigorous.

If other players are ok with this, my email address is in the database.

This certainly is a nice idea, and I would not object to it in principle. You are aware though that this is an anonymous game, and thus you should keep peoples identities secret, and not even hint anything you might know or have learned until after the game is finished?

I'm also not sure that this is the first choice of game to comment on, as it takes away the entire diplomacy and trade aspect of the game. (It also means no one would have to summarize messages, since there would be none. )

[Dimaz]

Jomon player asked me to post the following information about the problem he has with the mod (I rephrased/removed some portions of his message to protect anonymity - even writing style can reveal the author):

Checking out Jomon, Broken Swords to test my pretender build I noticed that I had a Woodsmen Blowpipe recruitable in addition to the units I should have. <...>
I spotted these lines at the list of recruitables in 1.4 that wasn't there in 1.2:

--addrecunit 2285 -- Jikininki
--addrecunit 2287 -- Akurojin
#addrecunit "woodsman blowpipe"
Jikininki, Akurojin are new summons in 1.4. I don't know if they're supposed to be in that part of the dm file or not. They certainy don't show up as recruitable in the game itself.

[NooBliss]

Yes sorry guys, I'm out. My mistake, should've checked the mod before entering.

+1 on the 1.8 CBM thoughts.

[Colonial]

I'm also not sure that this is the first choice of game to comment on, as it takes away the entire diplomacy and trade aspect of the game. (It also means no one would have to summarize messages, since there would be none. )

As I mentioned, I wouldn't publish anything until after you all had finished. as for no deplomacy: seems to be quite a common choice in vets games, and the no messages would be vary handy...

so yeah, if anyone is up for it, drop me a PM

[Amhazair]

Originally Posted by Dimaz

Jomon player asked me to post the following information about the problem he has with the mod (I rephrased/removed some portions of his message to protect anonymity - even writing style can reveal the author):

I have now checked both mod nations, and while I didn't see anything wrong with Ulm Reborn, I did notice Jomon's Cur Scout has 40 leadership, which I'm pretty certain he's not supposed to have.

Originally Posted by Colonial

As I mentioned, I wouldn't publish anything until after you all had finished. as for no deplomacy: seems to be quite a common choice in vets games, and the no messages would be vary handy...

so yeah, if anyone is up for it, drop me a PM

Yeah, but appart from publishing the thing you might also comment on something you saw in a certain battle of ask questions about it in some other thread that might give someone's identity away. You'd have to be very careful about everything you say.

Having said that, if you're certain you can protect anonimity I have no objections. Does anyone else? (If anyone does that's fine with me, I think we all have to be on the same page for this one.) IF we do this I think it best that no one says in public he's participating, instead just PM'ing you about it, as an extra layer of 'protection.'

[llamabeast]

Yep, confirmed that Jomon has the two issues listed: Cur Scout has leadership, Woodsman Blowpipe recruitable (the Jikininki and Akurojin are correct). I've reported these to Sombre.

Shouldn't present a problem though, so long as the Jomon player doesn't either use the Curs as commanders or recruit Blowpipes. Be good, Jomon player! (and... am I talking to myself? Hmm...)