Abandon SE4?Opinions:Space Empires 5 screen shots?

[Wade]

So, I'm assuming that everyone, for the most part, will abandon playing SE4 when SE5 is released.
What are you're opinions of the SE5 screenshots?
In particular, what do you think of the space and ground battles being in real time?

I appreciate the concept; stategic being turn based and combat being real time. Like an ancient leader on the battlefield; in this case he may be on site personally, or via a clone or android, or via other technological or psycic sensory.

That screenshot of the fighter and capital ship battle with all the little explosions is wonderful.
The ground battle art looks a little rough. I'm assuming that these are prototype screenshots.
What are the little orange puffs around the star in the other shot? Aftermath of a supernova?

What do you think of the user interface? I think that the mini map should be the same height as the rest of the panel so that the game screen will resemble a movie screen.

I particularly like the ship designer appearence. It has upper, middle, and lower decks. I wonder if Malfador still has time to make it to where we can grab, rotate, and flip the model. Also possibly zoom in.

If customized ship sets are so popular for SE4 then maybe have a ship set creator as part of the in game for SE5.
Or, even better,we pick a basic shape: pyrimid, cube, sphere \ we stretch and shape it : triangular, rectangular, tubular, etc. \ we add a "hull material texture" and colors : smooth, moderate, rough: metal, ceramic, biological, crystal, energy etc.: glossy, glowing, moderate, dark, etc. \ we add hull "items" and customization: engine nacelles, wings, command bridge structure, etc. \ we add the components \ Complete .

Would these humble opinion concepts be do-able in the current progress of Space Empires 5?...Probably not.

-Wade

[Randallw]

I for one have already stopped taking on new SE4 games so that my current ones will die out once I start se5. I know SE5 will have elements from SE3, which I have not played, so I don't know for absolute if I will like it better or worse than SE4, though I believe I should make a complete change to SE5.

I don't know much about having different decks, unless you are refering to the Starfury model with inner and outer hull.

I don't think there is much chance of an adition allowing ship modelling. To my knowledge there is a lot of debate on SpaceEmpires about what packages to use to make the new models, and although those subject to the NDA can't say one way or the other I doubt they would be going along with the debate if they already knew it had a modeller.

[Wade]

[quote]
I don't know much about having different decks, unless you are refering to the Starfury model with inner and outer hull.[\quote]

I'm reffering to this shot Post#http://www.malfador.com/SE5scr012.htm at Post#http://www.malfador.com/

[Edit] It seems that I did not quote properly and my links are not...linking.

-Wade

[Randallw]

http://www.malfador.com/SE5scr012.htm

I never noticed that before. Interesting. I suppose the combat system has some way of determining which deck takes damage.

What I noticed only recently was the ability to determine the atmosphere of planets. You could have nitrogen, or argon or other breathers.

[Raapys]

I'm not really sure I like the new GUI. Think I prefer the SE4 one, for various reasons. Other than that, the pictures doesn't tell me so much, as I really just care about gameplay improvements, not graphical ones.

Oh, actually I like parts of the GUI, just not the buttons in the main system view and the 'unit-buttons'.

[LordAxel]

Its kind of funny bc this was the discusion right before se4 came and was ultimately one of many things that killed the se ladder. For a long time alot of people prefered se3 but most people gave in and some didnt.

[Renegade 13]

I for one will continue playing SEIV once SEV is out. After all, just because SE5 is out it doesn't in any way diminish what SEIV is. I'll switch mostly to 5, but I'll continue playing 4 as well; just like I play some games of 3 even today.

[PvK]

I'll get SE5 and be interested to see how it turns out. I'll be continuing to play SE4 though, especially my Proportions Mod PBW games.

Some considerations:
* The SE5 graphics aren't a feature I care much about.
* I wasn't entirely happy with SE4 until the Gold version came out.
* I wasn't really happy with the way Starfury ended up.

[Black_Knyght]

One thing that bugs me is the shift in graphics format. I already liked the way SE4 works, and the ability to add new graphics to it at will was a HUGE factor in my enjoying it.

From everything I've seen the shift in graphics is more show than go. Add to that the new issue of a more complicated image system and the increased difficulty in making new shipsets for it, and I doubt I'll even bother with it. Improvements could've been made to SE4 without changing it's entire format.

[Fyron]

That's only an issue if you do not make shipsets with 3d models. Most SE4 shipset authors use 3d modeling programs anyways, so it's not that big of a deal. Atrocities might have Doga troubles, but he will adapt.