obat26 Afghanistan

[blazejos]

When comes to my mind Technical vehicles usually that was a Toyota pickup like this but now In Afganistan Ford is a chariot of war.

Famous "The evolution of revolution"


But toyota is also in usage even if smaller number
Here Taliban Special Forces in Kabul 1 September 2021


Here is article which explain Taliban victory from Technical usage perspective: https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2021/...honete-taliba/

Here photo from times of Afgan war in 1980 and as technicals were use GAZ-69 and GAZ-66


Toyota's may come near end of this war late 1980's here some photos https://houseofqueeg.wordpress.com/2...spotlight-no1/ even Specnaz used vehicles captured from Partisans delivered by West https://t.me/anna_news/8903 https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1318993324376805376 look's that they were so happy from this captured vehicles that they use even now modern equivalent of Toyota hilux in their special forces here article https://defence-blog.com/russian-spe...hilux-pickups/

[DRG]

Originally Posted by blazejos

Final version of additions to Afghanistan OOB

Błażej

While I acknowledge the time and effort you put in---- this OOB is not quite useless but it certainly is close

You added units but you did not create formations for them.

How is it you missed that important detail ??? You could not have tested anything you did in the game

An orphaned units check should look like this......

246 - Assault Boat (042 - Assault Boat) - ORPHANED -
249 - Crew (054 - Crew) - ORPHANED -

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Searching for units which do not have a container formation at a particular date
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246 - Assault Boat (042 - Assault Boat) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/46
249 - Crew (054 - Crew) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/46

====================
**** Run Complete ****

This is what your Afghan OOB looks like when the same check is ran

246 - Assault Boat (042 - Assault Boat) - ORPHANED -this is normal
249 - Crew (054 - Crew) - ORPHANED -this is normal
THESE ARE NOT
672 - Disston 6t (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
673 - Renault M17 FT (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
675 - CV-35 (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
687 - ANA Commando (083 - Commandos) - ORPHANED -
688 - ANA Commando (083 - Commandos) - ORPHANED -
689 - ANA Com Scout (088 - Commando Scouts) - ORPHANED -
690 - ANA Com Sniper (147 - Commando Sniper) - ORPHANED -
692 - MaxxPro 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - ORPHANED -
693 - Cougar HEV 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - ORPHANED -
694 - Cougar HEV 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - ORPHANED -
698 - Ford Ranger APC (136 - Improvised APC) - ORPHANED -
699 - Ford Police APC (136 - Improvised APC) - ORPHANED -
700 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
701 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
702 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
703 - Ford Ranger AT (129 - Light SP ATGM) - ORPHANED -
704 - Toyota AAR (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - ORPHANED -
705 - Toyota AAG (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - ORPHANED -
706 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
709 - HMMWV-MMG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
710 - HMMWV-AAG (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - ORPHANED -
711 - HMMWV-SPG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
712 - HMMWV-MMG-SPG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
713 - HMMWV-MMG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - ORPHANED -
716 - HMMWV-Box-APC (136 - Improvised APC) - ORPHANED -
756 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
759 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
761 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - ORPHANED -
765 - ZiL 6x6 (ZU-23) (181 - AA Truck) - ORPHANED -
773 - BAV-485 6x6 (033 - Light Amphibian) - ORPHANED -
774 - K-61 (033 - Light Amphibian) - ORPHANED -

====================
Searching for units which do not have a container formation at a particular date
====================

246 - Assault Boat (042 - Assault Boat) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/46.... this is normal
249 - Crew (054 - Crew) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/46.... this is normal
THESE ARE NOT
665 - SU-76M (021 - SP Artillery) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/52
668 - Universal (025 - APC (Track)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/47
672 - Disston 6t (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/56
673 - Renault M17 FT (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/60
674 - SU-76M (021 - SP Artillery) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/76
675 - CV-35 (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/51
687 - ANA Commando (083 - Commandos) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/108
688 - ANA Commando (083 - Commandos) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/108
689 - ANA Com Scout (088 - Commando Scouts) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/108
690 - ANA Com Sniper (147 - Commando Sniper) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/108
692 - MaxxPro 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/115
693 - Cougar HEV 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/112
694 - Cougar HEV 4x4 (219 - Light MRV APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/112
698 - Ford Ranger APC (136 - Improvised APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
699 - Ford Police APC (136 - Improvised APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
700 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
701 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
702 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
703 - Ford Ranger AT (129 - Light SP ATGM) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
704 - Toyota AAR (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/92
705 - Toyota AAG (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/92
706 - Ford Ranger MG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/110
709 - HMMWV-MMG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/112
710 - HMMWV-AAG (128 - Light SPAA Vehicle) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/115
711 - HMMWV-SPG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/115
712 - HMMWV-MMG-SPG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/117
713 - HMMWV-MMG (126 - Gun APC (Wheeled)) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/115
716 - HMMWV-Box-APC (136 - Improvised APC) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/112
756 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/74
759 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/78
761 - T-34/85 (102 - Reserve Tank) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/88
765 - ZiL 6x6 (ZU-23) (181 - AA Truck) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/80
773 - BAV-485 6x6 (033 - Light Amphibian) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/55
774 - K-61 (033 - Light Amphibian) - has no corresponding formation at - 1/55

====================
**** Run Complete ****

If you want what you have done considered further for the next update then you need to give those Orphaned units a home in properly named formations that do not have gaps that will pass all the MOBHack database checks and when it does I will take another look at it.


Also, my advice to you in regards to PIC / LBM's is the same as my suggestion to Michal.... IN THE FUTURE either spend some extra time to do them better or just supply the original photos or a list of links to them. ( and we do not need "unique" Afgan unit photos unless it is troops )

[blazejos]

Hello
great that you check this to be honest I never considered adding formations to this units list which I done for Afgan OOB

But If you are really interested that should be no problem for me to made this as a proposition of changes in actually Afgan OOB just give me a few days and I will upload this units together with proposed new formations for them If that will made this propositions usefully?

[DRG]

I don't want to have to guess what the formations should be. I have already added a few units for early into the OOB but that is as far as I am going to go for now

[blazejos]

Afgan OOB already improved now units are with formations and all palletes inside pictures checked.

[DRG]

You didn't run a final check and there were units with start dates that did not match the only formation they were used which in that case would not have shown as problem in the game but it points out you didn't do the checks and there were doubles for the T34/85 that should not have been left in but I have sorted that and a few other little issues all out..... finally

[blazejos]

Photo of Lancia 1ZM and Citroen-Kegresse M23 in Afganistan in recent years during American presence here




And here original Photo of C-K M23 from French army during WW2 in Syria can be used to replace "polish wz.28" in afghani OOB even if they are quite similar



https://www.chars-francais.net/2015/...23-citroen-m23

will be nice to have C-K M23 also in French WW2 then Vichy OOB because they were used by French army in Syria defence against allies in 1941

here schematics
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C..._(cropped).png

icons are already done and inside both games SPWW2 & SPMBT

[DRG]

Originally Posted by blazejos

will be nice to have C-K M23 also in French WW2 then Vichy OOB because they were used by French army in Syria defence against allies in 1941

here schematics
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C..._(cropped).png

icons are already done and inside both games SPWW2 & SPMBT

Vichy unit 396 - AMC P16 Mle 29 is more than "good enough" for something that insignificant to 99.99% of players

[blazejos]

I know that eyes of all peoples there on forum are now on Ukraine not Afganistan but here I d'like to propose modified Afgan OOB together with additional Lbm's and txt files for Islamic Emirate of Afganistan.

So this OOB has now included New army created with weapons and equipment of former ANA army + Armed opostion forces NRF which still fights against emirate forces even after fall of Panshir Valley.

Here description of New Lbm's
Pm29844.lbm to Pm29846.lbm GAZ/UAZ Technicals
Pm29847.lbm to Pm29865.lbm New Emirate Army
Pm29866.lbm to Pm29868.lbm Mujahedinen from 80's
Pm29869.lbm Emirate Mi-8
Pm29870.lbm Self defense unit from 2021
Pm29871.lbm to Pm29878.lbm Mujahedinen from 80's
Pm29879.lbm to Pm29884.lbm Emirate armoured units and soliders
Pm29885.lbm to Pm29886.lbm Mujahedinen from 80's
Pm29887.lbm Afgan Army from 1950's
Pm29888.lbm to Pm29899.lbm Mujahedinen from 80's/ 90's

Also Gaz69 & UAZ469 pictures not limited only to Afganistan but very usefully there for technicals but also for others Eastern Europens states

Pm30007.lbm to Pm30022.lbm Gaz69
Pm30023.lbm to Pm30038.lbm Uaz469