Ukraine 2021(?)

[lukerduker123]

I finally remembered my password, yippee. While trawling around the hellscape that is twitter I came across this map by an account called 'Jomini'. I have absolutely no clue how accurate it is, but I do hope that the divisional organization can help folks make more accurate maps.

With that in mind, any idea what the 20th Guards Motor are rocking? They were recently reformed apparently, so I assume they're rolling with some decent kit. Thinking about doing a scenario down there about the (theoretical) breakout from Kherson.

Apologies that this is a link. Been trying for the past few minutes to get it to work, but I'm far too tired and inebriated to keep it up. I promise it works if you click on it, though!

[DRG]

another one

https://twitter.com/i/status/1500513612661760000

[blazejos]

Read about this tank T-64BV Obr.2022 tank. was tested by Ukrainians in 8th of February even if existing in one example they don't have time to modernised more I'm certain was rushed to the front unit https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com...-tank-has.html
the same with T-64BVK commander tank upgrade https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com...d-t-64bvk.html

[Mr_Bill_5000]

"The Outskirts of Mykolaiev"

A Steel Panthers MBT Scenario (Slot #551 in the "Scenarios" list)

Location : Small town of Mykolaiev'ske just SE of Mykolaiev, Ukraine (small map), March 2022.

Battle Type : Russia (east) Advance vs. Ukraine (west) Delay.

Setting : Forward elements of Russian South Front battle forces, trying to cut off Ukraine's Black Sea coast from the rest of the country, try to take this small town, which is right on the way to the larger city of Mykolaiev (formerly Russian Nikolaev).

As most of Ukraine's conventional army has had to be retained to defend the Kyiv / Kharkiv front up north, local Ukrainian infantry forces -- supplemented by a rag-tag force of Ukrainian "Territorial Guard" and "Foreign Legion" units -- attempts to hold off the advancing Russians as long as possible.

For more of a challenge, I suggest that you play the Ukrainian side, although the scenario has been play-tested and is winnable as either side, with the caveat that a "Draw" based on points score should be counted as a "Marginal Victory" for the Ukrainians. Make sure to read the scenario notes, they are extensive!

And let's all hope for a speedy and just end to this conflict. Far too many innocent people have died in it, already. War ain't a game, unfortunately.

Sincerely

Mr. Bill

[DRG]

I will be interested in any feedback on how this plays

A new addition to both games this year is something I have long wanted and that is to have accurate information about actually total "troop strength" This report appears when you purchase units for a scenario, campaign or generated battle

While the unit cost for the Russian forces vs Ukrainian is 8922/3415

The resulting troop strength for both sides is identical which is quite a feat to have done that without planning to




EDIT. I have copied this post and the one with the scenario to the SCENARIOS subfolder

[DRG]

Posted just as an FYI since this thread has "evolved". Who knew the pandemic could be viewed as the "good times"



https://tass.com/politics/1418197?ut...rer=google.com

MOSCOW, March 7. /TASS/. The Government of the Russian Federation has approved on Monday a list of foreign states and territories that commit unfriendly actions against Russia, its companies, and citizens.

The list includes the United States and Canada, the EU states, the UK (including Jersey, Anguilla, the British Virgin Islands, Gibraltar), Ukraine, Montenegro, Switzerland, Albania, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, North Macedonia, and also Japan, South Korea, Australia, Micronesia, New Zealand, Singapore, and Taiwan (considered a territory of China, but ruled by its own administration since 1949).

The countries and territories mentioned in the list imposed or joined the sanctions against Russia after the start of a special military operation of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine.

The government noted that according to this decree, Russian citizens and companies, the state itself, its regions and municipalities that have foreign exchange obligations to foreign creditors from the list of unfriendly countries will be able to pay them in rubles. The new temporary procedure applies to payments exceeding 10 mln rubles per month (or a similar amount in foreign currency).

I guess that means all that oil and gas can be paid for in rubles as well

[Aeraaa]

I see that base Ukraine stats will get a massive rework next update. I've checked right now and in 2022 they are 52/63 XP/morale. They definitely were too harsh on Ukrainians, although I'm not sure if 68/70 is closer to the truth. I'd tweak them more towards 66/68.

[carp]

How is everyone adjusting for the dismal performance of Russian armor in UA? I've lowered quite a bit of numbers, but I can't quite get the APS to give me any flexibility. Breakdowns I can't seem to influence either.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by carp

How is everyone adjusting for the dismal performance of Russian armor in UA? I've lowered quite a bit of numbers, but I can't quite get the APS to give me any flexibility. Breakdowns I can't seem to influence either.

Crossposted from another thread:

I wouldn't go so far as to demand active protection system (APS) changes.

I've looked into this myself as I have a Ukraine scenario pushed out.

From photographic evidence of abandoned/captured T-90A Vladimirs in Ukraine, they have been equipped with the Shtora APS Countermeasure system which includes two IR Dazzler/Jammers, plus a smoke grenade system integrated with early warning systems.

This level of APS does NOT include active counter-munitions; and in playtests, it provides protection against Javelin by degrading missile accuracy, but doesn't make T-80s invulnerable.

The Russians have been "testing" next generation APS (Arena-M and Afganit) which include active counter-munitions on and off since the early 2000s; but nothing has been procured in numbers -- I guess we all know where the money for that went, to oligarch dachas and mega yachts.

[DRG]

What everyone is seeing is what the Ukrainians and their supporters want you to see and I am NOT saying it's wrong but it is the reality.

Nobody who is not there can possibly be is seeing the whole picture from the POV of both sides and I doubt that few who are there are seeing the whole picture either.

We see lots of wrecked Russian equipment but the Russians keep making gains ( or so it seems albeit slowly. It's almost if they want to make as big a mess as possible )

Any modern MBT taken from the side with an ATGM or even one of the better AT weapons is going to end up a flaming wreck and you can test that theory in the game yourself

Yes we upped the EXP/MOR of the Ukrainians as it was originally based on 2014 performance but we are NOT going to endlessly change it so WYSIWYG and if you don't like it that's why there is a troops quality button in the preferences screen and you can dial it up or down however you think is right

There was an interesting comment about that in a MSM article

But attrition is not a one-way street, and what is far less clear is the level of losses sustained by Ukrainian forces, with no equivalent social media avalanche from the Russian side parading this, and Ukraine understandably not wanting to advertise its setbacks.

EDIT. What I heard on the news tonight ( FWIW ) is that it's been estimated ( but I don't know by who ) and Russia has lost 10% of the forces that went in... but so has Ukraine ( and the bigger battalions win )

Also just read Russia lost a Major General recently