Guide: Agartha, Pale ones - a study in darkness (CBM)

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Fantomen

Now use those hammers to forge some fire bolas and boots of giant strength. Consider that fire bolas have two attacks each and has range AND damage = strength. So each lord gets two bolas and a pair of boots pushing strenght to 24.

Each lord will fire 4 bolas each turn with a range and damage of 24 and 10 precicion(bolas are +3 prec and soon you´ll see stars racking up).

@Fantomen
Dear Fanto,

Your guide is entitled "(CBM)". Your strategy is saying that Fire Bolas have damage=strength, but is it not the case that it was Vanilla with damage = 0+strength, but CBM is damage = 4(no strength)? (I've checked back to CBM 1.92, can't see it was different earlier.)

Which would make quite a difference to the early part of the guide...

[Fantomen]

This guide was written based on CBM 1.6, there are lots of changes since then.

Some relevant for this guide are:

*Bolas nerfed (no longe does strength damage)
*Forge lord nerfed (forge bonus reduced to 25)
*hammers removed (combined with the above obseletes FL mentor spam)
*lots of buffs to agartha, new spells, heat preference etc.

So basically the whole guide is out of date, the main strategic plan is obseleted by the nerfs to forgelord and hammer removal, and new options have been opened by the buffs that are much better choices to focus on.

I still think the bolas are a good idea though, but more for tying units down so you low attack troops can hit them than for direct killing.

If I was to make a strategy based on the current CBM it would probably be a dormant Ancient olm semi rainbow with minor blesses and nature to GoR the olmspawns (they becoma mage-thugs when GoRed)

I'm not going to rewrite the guide, consider it Dom3 history and maybe find some inspiration from it, but the overall strat is obselete.

[JonBrave]

Dear Fanto,

Nice to see you still here!

I only joined at about CBM 1.9x, so now I understand it was different before. (I am only used to CBM now, so didn't even realise it had been different in Vanilla.) Maybe you caused the nerf! Are there any ranged damage 0 but + strength weapons left, other than bows?

Your guide is nicely written!