Mod ideas that you weren't going to use anyway

[Baneslave]

This thread is for those who have brilliant (or not so brilliant, like mine) nation, scenario or other modding ideas, but no time / productivity slider / capabilities to make anything out of them.

If anyone wants to use these ideas, ask away. (If I don't answer: yes, please do whatever you want with my ideas.)


Dragon Monks - Age of Betrayal

The times when dragons and their monks were allied have ended. Too many sheep and shepherds were eaten by hungry dragons and humans rose to rebel. Travelling knights, monks and local villagers gathered to fight against dragons' tyranny. The Dragon Fortress was encircled, but rising of the new pretender stopped the war. For now.

Units:
- Travelling knights with large weapons and few horses. Low resource and high gold cost to represent that they are travellers.
- Hardy monks with good morale, good magic resistance, Fire, cold and poison resistance (25%), less supply usage. Simple weapons (spears, staffs, clubs, axes, slings etc) and leather armour at the best.
- Villagers with low morale and bad weapons.
- Capital only dragons with magical unit. Can only be commanded by specific monk units.
- Monk elementalists (fire, water, earth, air) and blood mages hiding at the mountains make for most of the mages.
- PD consists of villagers and monks.


Dragon Monks - Age of Hunt

Dragon Fortress has been silent for centuries, but new threat of demons has awakened old monk monasteries. Little do the monks know that their blood dabbling allies are behind many of the incursions.

Units:
- Monks have obtained both weapons, armour and training during the centuries. Good morale, good magic resistance, Fire, cold and poison resistance (33%), less supply usage, two handed weapons specialised in killing larger monsters, ring and scale mail armours.
- Villagers with low morale and bad weapons.
- Monk elementalists have obtained astral magic and balance between elements is not important any more.
- Blood and death mages.
- Summonable dragons that compensate for their ancestors' wrong doing by dying in the battlefield.
- No cap-only units. PD consists of monk students and villagers.


Dragon Monks - Age of Uncounted Monasteries

The Dragon War, the Demon Hunt and the Giant Raid have taught Dragon Monks that they can only trust in themselves and that they shall taught to whole world.

Units:
- Monks have conquered suffering of life. Fire, cold and poison resistance (50%), no need for supplies.
- Monks welcomed smiths from falling Ulm and now know the secrets of Black Steel.
- The tradition of hunting monsters and mages is still strong. Assassin units with plate-mails and two handed weapons are not unusual.
- Elementalists are only magic users monks allow. Master elementalists have gained invulnerability against elements.
- No cap-only units. PD consists of monk students and frontier monks.


I may write more about Dragon Monks later or write down my other multi age nation idea. Who knows.

[Sombre]

Hmm. We've had a bunch of threads like this before. The thing is there isn't a shortage of ideas, there's a shortage of A) Actual work and B) People testing mods and giving feedback.

Just my opinion of course. There are apparently people here who have no ideas of their own and prefer to make other people's. Or so I am told. Haven't actually seen any evidence.

[Baneslave]

I have ideas and would be quite willing to produce something but:
1. I am busy with school work.
2. I lack artistic talent to make unit graphics. (My last Dominions 3 mod project died early because I hated my unit graphics.)

So, if someone could make graphics for me or if I made nation that only needed recoloured graphics I could actually get something done.

Edit. Also, I am not good enough player to provide any good feedback.

[Gandalf Parker]

Sombre is right about shortage of people. Particularly in the feedback stage. If people wanted more mods and maps and themes etc they need to "pay" for the ones they are using with abit of feedback, suggestions, and especially thankyous.

On the other hand there is nothing wrong with laying out ideas. Ive seen a number of them done by the person who didnt start the conversation.

Another tactic is that there are people who prefer to improve on someone elses work. So doing a quicky "good enough for me" version and clearly saying you dont mind if someone else fills it out can work well also.

[llamabeast]

Another tactic is that there are people who prefer to improve on someone elses work. So doing a quicky "good enough for me" version and clearly saying you dont mind if someone else fills it out can work well also.

That will never work for mod nations unforunately. There are lots of half-made mod nations. It's the small number of highly polished ones that people actually use.

Having said that I enjoyed your ideas Baneslave. If you do make something I'd be very interested to play with it.

[Gandalf Parker]

Well its not like I keep a scoreboard on other projects but I fuzzily remember native americans and halflings that were improved upon. And a couple of vampire nations. Plus my own Watcher mod which was expanded in the debug mod. And my filler mod which Edi did a version on.

Its not always clear if a nation is specifically due to the fact that it got extensive discussion before hand. And rarely that a project mentions the previous project. You just have to accept that when you throw ideas out into the public property.

I do have to admit though that my list of mods to try is long. My list of mods that I have tried and liked is also long. And my list of mods I had ideas, suggestions, bug reports that I never posted is also long. I chide myself that some of the people who have stopped work on their projects might be partly my fault for not telling them I liked their work.

Also I havent done nearly enough to support mods on my server. I do support large games that want mods. Especially for "developed AIs". But I should probably start more large public games supporting projects I like.

[BigDaddy]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Sombre is right about shortage of people. Particularly in the feedback stage. If people wanted more mods and maps and themes etc they need to "pay" for the ones they are using with abit of feedback, suggestions, and especially thankyous.

On the other hand there is nothing wrong with laying out ideas. Ive seen a number of them done by the person who didnt start the conversation.

Another tactic is that there are people who prefer to improve on someone elses work. So doing a quicky "good enough for me" version and clearly saying you dont mind if someone else fills it out can work well also.

I actually have one of those! It's a partial alpha nation. It isn't that I don't want to do the work, its that I don't know what I'm doing and concentrating on learning is nigh impossible under my current circumstances.

The attachment is a less than alpha nation that I detailed in a thread and got just one piece of feedback! Several views though, so, I thought if I could eventually look at someone elses work at make this into a working mod, I'd send it up for testing. Anyway, here my little bit of work... that took a lot of planning actually, maybe you'll be inspired... or merely get a design assist. Really, though, you can just download someone elses completed mod and use it to learn how to put stuff together!

[Burnsaber]

I really don't have any ideas for nations or such, but I have noticed some cool modding ricks that could be used. I've just never bumped into a mod where I could use them.

Modding magical items that cast spells: This would be easy. Choose a item that allows you to cast a spell (Wand of Wild Fire, Spectre of Authority, Snake Ring, Stone Sphere, etc..) and mod it into the item you want. Then just use #selectspell and alter the spell that the item uses while giving a appropiate proxy spell for the game to use (much like in custom onebattlespelling).

Spell Modding: This is where the good stuff is. There are just so many things that one could do. Like a "Cloud" spell that buffs troops, for instance. I've barely scratched the surface in CPCS.

[Baneslave]

Joke Touhou mod:

Gensokyo - Land of Disbelief

All units and commanders have:
- Air shield (10% - 95%).
- Some kind of danmaku ranged attack.
- Are women, for some reason.

Units:
- Fairy: Immortal, almost fearless cannon-fodder with single shot and weak fist attack.
- Rabbit Youkai: Poorly equipped, poorly trained and poorly paid Rabbit Youkai are bit more dangerous than fairies. They also are lucky.
- Ghost: Immortal spirit that isn't willing to rest. Etherealness gives them survivability in the battlefield, but they aren't as dangerous as most think.
- Kappa: Armed with bamboo spears and curiosity regarding mechanics, Kappa are good at both attacking and defending fortresses. Can fight equally well under water.
- Oni: Drunken oni boasts huge strength, unbreakable courage and Drunken Fist style martial art. They are gluttons and cause unrest in the province they are in.
- Wolf Tengu: Armed with various weapons, shields and chainmails, they are most well equipped warriors in Gensokyo. Their loyalty towards their friends and masters is notable.
- Moon Rabbit: Armed with spears, bows and shields, these trained soldiers can be surprisingly dangerous foe to fight against.
- Half-Phantom: Skilled with blade and armed with katana Half-Phantom are dangerous foe to fight against. Phantom side of body helps human side fight.
- Danmaku Warrior: Danmaku Warrior is human who can use her deadly skills to launch dangerous volleys of magical shots. Expert in evading incoming shots.

Commanders:
- Crow Tengu Reporter: Flying spy with camera and newspaper bag. Master of evasion.
- Nekomata Ninja: Deadly assassin who uses both curses and shurikens to defeat her foes.
- Boss Fairy: Bit larger fairy that too is immortal and gathers other fairies around her. Poor commander.
- Kappa Engineer: Kappa who is particularly good at building and inventing stuff. She can lead 40 warriors against fortresses.
- Booze-baron Oni: This Oni is quite lucky and has one way or another managed to gain almost endless supply of alcohol. Her presence in area gathers other Oni, but endless drunken parties annoy neighbours. She can lead up to 40 warriors in the quest to seek alcohol.
- Wolf Tengu Commander: Surprisingly good warrior and commander, Wolf Tengu Commander can lead up to 120 warriors in the battlefield and has patrol bonus.
- Shrine Maiden: One of few people in Gensokyo that in any way care about shrines or gods. Level 2 holy magic user.
- Bird Youkai: Naturally capable of calling darkness over battlefield. She don't command that much reason over others, but her singing is stunningly good.
- Doll Master: Being skilled crafter, Doll Master is quite capable of forging magical items. She also produces certain amount of battle ready dolls per month and commands them in battlefield.
- Human Magician: Somewhat weak magician, but quite good in research and also skilled in danmaku.
- Magician: Skilled in magic and excellent in magical research, Magician suffers from poor health induced by endless studies. Has humongous encumbrance without that much equipment.
- Kitsune: Fox Youkai that is skilled nature magic user with couple other random paths. Stealthy but somewhat expensive spy. Natural talent makes her bad in magical research.
- Lunarian: Quite capable in fields of magic, pharmacy and archery, Lunarian can command up to 40 warriors to the field.
- Vampire: Ageless Vampire is strong user of blood and death magic, but her vulnerability to sun and fire makes her somewhat cowardly. Is not undead or immortal.

Pretenders:
- Gap Youkai: The mystical Gap Youkai is said to be one of the strongest beings in Gensokyo. Can naturally open borders and lead armies to any place in world through her gaps.
- The Strongest: The Ice Fairy that dwells in the Scarlet Devil Mansion's lake is said (by herself) to be strongest in Gensokyo. Skilled water magician but fails utterly at research. Immortal like other Fairies and her presence causes other Fairies to gather.

Heroes:
- The Elegant Maid: The Perfect Maid from Scarlet Devil Mansion doesn't know any magic but she fights by throwing hundreds of knives. Can stop time and has almost perfect physical defence because of this.
- The Immortal In Bamboo Forest: Person who gained immortality by using Hourai-Elixir. Strong user of fire magic and has many stages before killed.
- Sister of the Devil: Insane Vampire that can destroy anything she sees. (In game effect: Multiple attacks with disintegration side effect)


Well, that was fun adventure.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Sombre

Hmm. We've had a bunch of threads like this before. The thing is there isn't a shortage of ideas, there's a shortage of A) Actual work and B) People testing mods and giving feedback.

Just my opinion of course. There are apparently people here who have no ideas of their own and prefer to make other people's. Or so I am told. Haven't actually seen any evidence.

Sombre is right, we need hands, not minds.

i have ideas and would be quite willing to produce something but I lack artistic talent to make unit graphics.

i point you to my mods in my signature.
all my sprite are either (cheap) reskin, copy-paste or modified jpgs found on the internet.
No, they are not the best thing out here, but they do their job.