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March 30th, 2009, 07:25 AM
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Re: Victorious Nations/Hall of Honor
Tyrant, wouldn't HoF be more fair and have more sense if not only wins were tracked but loses as well? Yes, it will require much more work but if, say, player A won 4 of 30 games he was in and player B won 3 of 4, who should be higher in HoF? Current implementation doesn't take this into account at all, sadly  .
What ese-aSH requests also seems reasonable to me though harder to implement. For me this thread is more information about players than nations just because I may estimate nations by myself.
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March 30th, 2009, 09:01 AM
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Re: Victorious Nations/Hall of Honor
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Originally Posted by ano
Tyrant, wouldn't HoF be more fair and have more sense if not only wins were tracked but loses as well? Yes, it will require much more work but if, say, player A won 4 of 30 games he was in and player B won 3 of 4, who should be higher in HoF? Current implementation doesn't take this into account at all, sadly  .
What ese-aSH requests also seems reasonable to me though harder to implement. For me this thread is more information about players than nations just because I may estimate nations by myself.
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I don't think that system would really be any more accurate in the end. Wins depend on a lot of factors that you're not really considering here. And trying to count enough relevant factors to be accurate would be, well, insane. I think wins/players defeated is a pretty reasonable system. It's definitely not a completely 100% accurate measure, but I think it serves well enough.
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March 30th, 2009, 12:21 PM
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Re: Victorious Nations/Hall of Honor
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Originally Posted by ano
Tyrant, wouldn't HoF be more fair and have more sense if not only wins were tracked but loses as well? Yes, it will require much more work but if, say, player A won 4 of 30 games he was in and player B won 3 of 4, who should be higher in HoF? Current implementation doesn't take this into account at all, sadly  .
What ese-aSH requests also seems reasonable to me though harder to implement. For me this thread is more information about players than nations just because I may estimate nations by myself.
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I don't think that system would really be any more accurate in the end. Wins depend on a lot of factors that you're not really considering here. And trying to count enough relevant factors to be accurate would be, well, insane. I think wins/players defeated is a pretty reasonable system. It's definitely not a completely 100% accurate measure, but I think it serves well enough.
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While theoretically I'd like to be able to see the win ratio's in the HoF, (to satisfy my own curiosity if nothing else) I do also agree with Rdonj, that it would be just as open to interpretation as the current system. More importantly, I'm afraid it'll be loads of work to actually gather the information out of the multitude of game threads floating about.
For those still intrested I can provide my own stats though. (Your call whether this means I'm a neurotic control freak, or just that I've played few enough games to remember each of them individually.) I have played a total of 13 MP games in my Dominions career. One of those was a 4-player game and thus not elegible for the HoF (won by Llamabeast) and one of those is still running. (My bet's on Micah to win that one, but we'll see) So that means that out of 11 finished games you can chalk up 7 HoF losses to balance my 4 wins.
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