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August 4th, 2001, 01:49 AM
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Re: Play by Web
The game owners had nothing to do with my desiding not to play. In fact, they are a couple of great guys. The simple fact is, I got frustrated about the design issue, and the slow pace of the game.
This has nothing to do with the hosts.
Thanks for your input, as always, its important to know all the facts, and I am glad that you enjoy the PBW system. I am sure I will in time, but right now, its not for me.
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August 3rd, 2001, 02:02 PM
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Re: Play by Web
Hey Atrocities
A friend of mine will not play PBEM. He says his fleets kept disappearing and ships were moved around on him. It never happened to any one else. One of those weird things.
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August 3rd, 2001, 02:09 PM
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Re: Play by Web
Atrocities,
I am very sorry to hear you had a bad experience. Of course PBW is not for everyone. As much of an improvment over standard PBEM it is, it still is limited by the people in your game.
I don't belive Gimboid was trying to discount your experiences, he was merely pointing out that your two "complaints" about PBW have nothing to do with PBW.
The ship design issue is either an Se4 bug or simply something you are doing incorrectly. The slow play issue is only due to the other players in your game. And while it is correct that the game owner cannot "force" players to upload their turns in a timely manner, they do "set the pace" for the game. They can force the ai to play the turns whenever they want if the players do not, and they can always kick the players and find some that will play more rapidly.
You have to forgive some of us cause we can get a little fervent in our defense of PBW. We enjoy playing against other players so much, and anything that makes that easier to do is awesome. But no, it's not for everyone.
Geoschmo
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August 3rd, 2001, 03:02 PM
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Re: Play by Web
You're right, Geoschmo. Since I've started PBW, I lost a lot of my interest in playing against the AI for I now realize how much it lacks the thrill of interacting with humans.
I'm curious: Does Shrapnel or Malfador pay your costs (the server you're running shouldn't be that cheap)?
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August 3rd, 2001, 03:05 PM
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Re: Play by Web
If what happened to me was something I was doing wrong, then perhaps I should re-educate myself on how the system works.
It was after all, my first and second attempt at playing a game, and my email address was all screwed up.
Give me a few days allowing me to go through the system again, then I'll try it again. I would much prefer a human oppenant to an AI any day.
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August 3rd, 2001, 03:12 PM
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Re: Play by Web
quote: Originally posted by Gorgo:
I'm curious: Does Shrapnel or Malfador pay your costs (the server you're running shouldn't be that cheap)?
The Admiral owns the hardware and handles any costs, whatever they might be. I have no idea about that side of it. I'm sure it isn't free, but he seems to enjoy it.
The rest of us contribute our time on a volunteer basis.
Geo
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August 3rd, 2001, 04:35 PM
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Re: Play by Web
Atrocities: PBW have nothing to do with the Ship designs (A new SE4 bug maybe?). PBW only run the turn.
And about the game pace, as others post before me, the game owner can setup the period between the turns, then, again I can't see a problem with PBW itself...
If PBW is not for you, then, maybe SE4 multiplayer is not for you!
[This message has been edited by Master Belisarius (edited 03 August 2001).]
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