Water sites

[Minrhael]

In my current game I have decent gem income, but no astral or water income. I've managed to crank out a few clams, but obviously at 40 gems/clam it's not efficient so it's taking me awhile, but I've finally reached the point where I can slowly produce astrals so I can cast Acashic every 5 turns or so without hurting my other gem resources too much.

I assume based on the fact that I usually find nature gems in forests and air in mountains etc that the sites are at least to a degree terrain-linked. Since I can't cast Acashic often, and I really need sources of water and astral, what terrain types should I be casting in first (other than underwater provinces of which I have zero). I've been assuming provinces with rivers and coastal, but haven't had any luck so far.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Minrhael:
I assume based on the fact that I usually find nature gems in forests and air in mountains etc that the sites are at least to a degree terrain-linked.

Sites aren't really terrain linked. You've been finding nature in forests and air in mountains because you simply find more stuff, PERIOD, in forests and mountains. Plains and rivers are lower in magical sites, so you should stick to searching mountains, forests, wastes, etc.

[Zurai]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Sites aren't really terrain linked.

Ohhh, yes they are. You won't find "Forest of Delight" if the province doesn't contain a forest. You won't find "Chillsick Swamp" if the province doesn't contain a swamp. You won't find "Pearl Beach" if the province isn't coastal. So on and so forth. There are *lots* of terrain-linked sites.

Water sites are pretty much everywhere though. There are quite a few bog types that can appear in forests, Rockside Spring which can occur in mountains, lots of lakes that can occur anywhere, etc. Best bet is to search mountain + forest provinces (ie, provinces that have both mountain and forest terrain), but don't expect to find water gems at every one or even every other one.

[Gateway103]

For info on what sites are available, what level mage of what path are needed to search for them, as well as what they do, check out Sunray's compilation of Magic Sites.

Here is a link to the same document on Arry's site,
http://www.bl23c.com/arryn/downloads/dom2sites.xls

(I would give you the direct link to Sunray's site, but it is either down at the moment or I am having trouble connecting to it.)

I believe the info is largely based on Dom1, where items in Red had changed or were added in Dom2. Enjoy.

-Gateway103

[GavinWheeler]

Originally posted by Zurai:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Sites aren't really terrain linked.

Ohhh, yes they are.

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Individual sites are terrain linked - the most obvious cases being the underwater sites, as a gorge of glowing fish in the middle of an arid mountainous desert woule be really weird. Almost as weird as some of the Myst game settings.

But Gem types are not particularly terrain linked, which seems to be the thrust of Norfleet's comment. If I've understood correctly, that is.

You don't only find Nature gems in forests, fire gems in deserts and water gems underwater. There might be a slight bias - if there are a lot of Swamp-only death-gem producing sites, then you might get proportionally more death gems than other gems in swamps, but it is probably not a very strong effect.

[Wauthan]

I think it's pretty nifty that there's such a number of sites that produces other kinds gems then the magic required to find them. Like a watersite that only produces firegems.