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December 2nd, 2003, 08:07 AM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
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Originally posted by JayBdey:
OTOH, PBW games quite easily can stretch over months, or more. But when you have 20 players involved, that's understandable, and the logistics of getting them all in one place for a TCP game would be..difficult to say the least.
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[ December 02, 2003, 06:08: Message edited by: Atrocities ]
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December 2nd, 2003, 08:51 AM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
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Originally posted by JayBdey:
You'll find multiplayer in this game to be horribly painful to get working. And if you do get it working, playing the game is slow in multiplayer.
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That is only true for TCP/IP, and only you do not know how to forward ports on a firewall. PBEM, which is how most MP games are played, is rather painless.
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Originally posted by JayBdey:
PBW is horribly slow and can take days just to get started.
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SE4 is not pretending to be a RTS game where each game is over with in hours, you know. You can very easily get face paced PBW games; just get a group of players willing to sit down all at one time to play them. They even go faster than TCP/IP (much faster in some cases) when you start getting more than 2 or 3 players in a game. This is because TCP/IP only sends the game files to one player at a time. PBEM/PBW allows the game files to be sent to all players at once, and the host only has to do a single upload, rather than one to every player. Check out the PBW Real-time Client if you want even faster retrieval of turns.
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Originally posted by Argitoth:
in TCP/IP is there an autohost option? e.g. when all players have ended a turn, the turn is generated and the players can then take their next turns.
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No. The turn only processes when the host hits the execute next turn button. This has both its advantages and its disadvantages.
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December 2nd, 2003, 10:11 AM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
Arrr!! Now I want to buy it. I have enough money and everything, but... I'm scared!
Can you tell me how battles work? (in Web-games)
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December 2nd, 2003, 10:47 AM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
seiv is alot of micromanaging. avoid it by playing on a SMALL MAP! do not use the ministers they are stupid.
get the game it is FUN
edit: spelling
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December 2nd, 2003, 11:19 AM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
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Originally posted by Argitoth:
Can you tell me how battles work? (in Web-games)
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In the demo you have the option of both tactical and strategical battles. In PBW/PBEM games you only have the strategical option.
You send your turn with your ships orders - you wait - you receive the next turn - you watch the replay - you kick the wall in frustration asking yourself why you didn�t tell your ships to �. instead
Playing PBW takes commitment and time. A small 1 on 1 game like in the King of the Hill league can be done in a week with the right opponent (and maybe take 5 - 10 hours of actual playing time), a large 10+ player game can go on for a year or more.
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December 2nd, 2003, 08:15 PM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
In the game, I couldn't figure out how to setup battle orders for strategic combat.
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December 2nd, 2003, 08:49 PM
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Re: Should I buy it? Help me understand
For fighting only, you can click on a button when initiating the combat. As general setting, and for simulatneous turns, you can only set this option when setting up the game (Mechanics - Turn Style)
[ December 02, 2003, 18:56: Message edited by: Roanon ]
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