Re: Anomaly reports
Helicopters - eek! Given the number of different marks of a helo like the UH-1, there is plenty of potential here for slipping on a banana skin. I have therefore tried not to highlight small variations in speed (some smart ground crew person will always try & squeeze the odd knot or 2), carry capacity etc. I have indicated units where there are differences in capabilities that have a 1-6 range (survivability, stabilisers etc), or where the majority of similar units says one thing and the 'odd man/men out' say different.
Class 53 – Helicopter. By country of manufacturer, then alphabetically by manufacturer, and then by year of manufacture.
Aerospatiale SA.330 Puma – Gulf 562, Turkey 501 & Peru 530 have Survivability 4, Ethiopia 122 has 0, others have 3.
France 517, UK 574, Pakistan 420, Romania 124 and Brazil 122 have Stabiliser 0, even though they are armed.
AS.332 Super Puma – Gulf 566, Greece 519, Argentina 533 & Thailand 498 have Survivability 4, which leaves a narrow majority with 3.
Gulf 566 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Indonesia 120 has ‘Steel HF’ 10, standard is 12.
AS.532 Cougar – Greece 520 has Speed 86, standard is 93 or 108. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 10, all others have 12.
Jordan 109, Green 124, Brazil 123 and Saudi 532 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
France 516, Netherlands 514, Turkey 502 and Brazil 123 have Stabiliser 0, Jordan 109 has 2, standard is 4.
France 516 & 519, Netherlands 514 and Turkey 502 have ‘Steel HF’ 10. Standard even for the AS.332 is 12, and the Cougar is a developed version.
Albania 132 is called “AS-350B2”, which relates to the Ecureuil light helo; however, the stats and .lbm are those of the Cougar. According to SIPRA, 5 AS.532 Cougars were delivered in 2009. Dates for the unit are 1/79 – 12/105; these dates are covered by other units in the oob.
Conversely, Cambodia 123 also has the stats and .lbm of an AS.532, although it is also called “AS-350”. Again according to SIPRA, Cambodia has had no Pumas of any mark, but 2 AS.350 Ecureuils were probably delivered in 1993. In the game, all AS.350 are classed as Light Helos; this would not affect Cambodian formations.
EH-101 Merlin – Portugal 281 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 3.
Agusta A.109 – Sweden 586 has Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 94 (standard is 104) and Steel HF 4 (standard is 9).
Mil Mi-1 – Mujahadeen 116 is Size 3, standard (in Class 204) is 2. It also has Speed 76 (standard is 67) and Survivability 3 (standard is 1).
Mil Mi-4 (and derivatives) – Russia 312 has Survivability 0, standard is 4.
NVA 226 has FC 4, Rangefinder 4 and Stabiliser 2, although it is unarmed.
Cuba 130 has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Finland 146 has Stabiliser 0, Uganda 136 has 3, standard for armed versions is 2.
China 115 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, Green 125 has 5, standard is 6.
Mil Mi-8 – Russia 315-318 & 355 have Survivability 0, standard is 4.
Finland 145 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Mil Mi-17 – PLO 232 has Stabiliser 2, Czech 117 has 0, standard is 4.
Mil Mi-2 - Figures are correct.
Mil Mi-14 – Poland 968 has Swim Speed 1, one of only 2 helicopters to have this ability. I’m dubious, if only because helicopters don’t taxi in the same way as fixed-wing aircraft and although the Mi-14 is built to land on water, I have never seen either a photo or a report to suggest that it can move on it in a controlled manner. It also has ‘Steel HS’ 0, standard is 1.
Westland Wessex – Iraq 112, Nigeria 131, S.Yemen 115 & Uruguay 277 have Survivability 4, others have 3.
Westland Lynx – UK 573 & 576 have Stabiliser 0, even though armed. Standard for the armed version is 5.
Bell 204/205 Series – Norway 254 & 255 have Survivability 2, Israel 262, Iran 270, Netherlands 506 & W.Germany 332 have 3, standard is 4.
Of the armed versions, Jordan 107, China 119, Netherlands 506, Turkey 494 & 495, Spain 503 & W.Germany 332 have Stabiliser 2; Greece 507 & 515, Austria 117, Uruguay 285 & Paraguay 288 have 4, standard is 3.
Iran 270 and Canada 412 & 413 have Stabiliser 0, although all are armed.
Cambodia 117, Chile 122 & Peru 117 have Stabiliser 3, Israel 262 has 2, although all are unarmed.
Jordan 107, Iran 270, S.Korea 105 & 107, Taiwan 107, Norway 254 & 255, Spain 503, Ethiopia 110 & 112 and Lebanon 137 & 138 have ‘Steel HF’ 4, standard is 6.
Just a small suggestion: Japan 351, Iran 270, S.Korea 105, Spain 503, Chile 122 and Indonesia 125 (covering various marks) all have Speed 80, which equates to 150 mph. My sources (‘Aircraft of the USAF’ in the Putnam series, various Janes editions etc) suggest that 138 mph is about top whack for a standard Huey, which equates to Speed 75, which is pretty much an average in the game.
Bell 212 – Israel 264, Iran 272 & Norway 590 have Survivability 3, others have 4.
Sweden 585 has Speed 75, standard is 83-86. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 0, standard is 6.
Bell 214 – Norway 591 & Peru 532 have Speed 99, all others have 90.
Iran 273, Thailand 503 and Ecuador 517 have Stabiliser 4, standard for the ‘family’ is 3. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 7, standard is 6.
Bell 412 – Cyprus 150, Brazil 119, Chile 120 & Indonesia 272 have Speed 62, standard is 87.
Norway 256 has Survivability 3, Netherlands 509 has 5, all others have 4.
Netherlands 509 has Stabiliser 2, all other armed versions have 3.
Green 120, Nigeria 135, Finland 148, Zimbabwe 116, Eritrea 127 and Uganda 147 & 148 have RoF 6, standard for MG-armed helos is 9.
Norway 256 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, the 4 with Speed 62 have 8 (maybe the reason for the reduced speed?), all others have 6.
Boeing-Vertol CH-47 Chinook – Taiwan 108 & 109, Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Speed 88, standard is 100.
Netherlands 513 & Turkey 513 have Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.
Sikorsky S-55/H-19/Westland Whirlwind – There is a narrow majority (15:14) with Size 3. The H-19 is a similar size to the SA.330 Puma (slightly larger main rotor, slightly shorter body), all of which are Size 3.
The Size 4 units are:- Israel 260, France 502, UK 528, USA 288, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Canada 408, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Yugoslavia 120, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320.
Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have Stabiliser 4 (they are unarmed), all others have 0.
Survivability is mixed, to say the least. Israel 260, Taiwan 105, ARVN 85, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493, Thailand 495 & Cambodia 120 have 2; France 502, UK 528, Jordan 105, Iran 260, USA 288, USMC 158, Canada 408, Denmark 115, Brazil 116, Chile 121, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 3; Japan 344, Yugoslavia 120, Green 118, Argentina 528, Austria 119, Thailand 494, Indonesia 116 & Ecuador 124 have 4.
Likewise, the Steel HF figure is very variable:- Israel 260, France 502, Taiwan 105, Pakistan 399, Belgium 200, Greece 511, Turkey 493 & Thailand 495 have 3; Green 118, Austria 119 & Ecuador 124 have 4; Japan 344 & Jordan 105 have 6; UK 528, Canada 408, Yugoslavia 120, Nigeria 130 & Malaysia 320 have 8; Iran 260 & Denmark 115 have 10, and the remainder have 5.
I’d be tempted to go for Survivability 3 & HF 5, as the H-34 standard is 3/6.
Sikorsky S-58/H-34 – Sudan 111 is Size 3, all others are 4. It also has Stabiliser 2, although unarmed.
Iran 268, Taiwan 104, Pakistan 407, Belgium 201 and W.Germany 325 & 326 have Survivability 2, Italy 491 has 4, standard is 3.
Netherlands 508 has Stabiliser 0, although it is armed.
Iran 268, Thailand 496 & 497, Chad 226 & Uruguay 275 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, Sudan 111 has 4, standard is 6.
Sikorsky S-61/Westland Sea King – UK 532, 536 & 575 have Survivability 3, all others have 4.
UK 575 has Stabiliser 0, standard for the armed version is 4.
Belgium 199 has Stabiliser 4, although unarmed.
UK 532 & Malaysia 324 have ‘Steel HF’ 12, standard is 14.
Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 – Turkey 496, 499 & 500 have Speed 80, standard is 99.
Argentina 536 has Lift Capacity 114, all others have 214.
Gulf 568 and S.Korea 111 & 112 have Stabiliser 2, Israel 265 has 3, standard is 4.
Israel 265 & Brazil 124 have Armour 10/2/2/2/2/2/0, Green 119 & Brazil 125 have 12/4/2/2/2/2/0 – I didn’t think this worked with helicopters.
Chile 128 has Armour 12/4, standard is 10/2.
Vertol H 21 – France 510 is listed as this, although it has most of the stats of a CH-34. France had both types, so it’s an interesting one. Every other H-21 in the game is Heavy Helo class and has a Steel HF figure of 12 (this unit has 5). The relevant formations in the oob are covered by other units.
Richard H
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