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Default Croatian OOB

I’m from Croatia so I’ve been particularly interested in it’s OOB (OOB 60 in SPMBT). I have a list of errors/possible changes if anyone is interested to include it in the future updates…


Errors:

1. Unit 006: AMX-30 tanks are available; Croatia never had or used these tanks

2. Unit 072: APS 95 rifle is available; this project was cancelled and there was no major usage by the Army. Instead, I suggest you put FN FAL or G36 (for use by the special forces). VHS 5.56mm assault rifle, a new rifle, is being developed and tested in Croatia. It should be available for limited use from the second half of 2008
http://image63.webshots.com/463/4/61...0MefrxW_ph.jpg

3. Unit 123 Mi-8/Mi-17 helicopters used by the Air Force were never armed; SPMBT: they are armed with unguided rockets (57mm) and machine guns (12.7mm Dsk), but the icon is shown without the weapon (the way it should be)

4. Unit 130: SA-342L helicopters available; Croatia never had these

5. Units 132 and 133: Mi-24 helicopters are retired as of 2007 (SPMBT: up to 2020); Croatia will not get any new attack helicopters (see Table 1 attached at the bottom)

6. Unit 152: G-4 Super Galeb planes available. Croatia never had these. Few J-1 Jastreb and G-2 Galeb planes were captured in Aug 1995 and entered into service, but were retired shortly after

7. Unit 130: SA-342L helicopters available; Croatia never had these

8. Units 211, 213 and 214 Infantry AT: instead of M-90 used in the game, Croatia has it’s own version RL90 M95, essentially a copy of M79

9. Unit 223: Milan ATGMs available in the game until 2020. I believe very limited number of Milans were used during the war 1991-1995, but there are no Milans from 2006 onwards, at least (see Table 2 attached at the bottom)

10. Unit 451: SA10a Favorit SAM system: parts of this system were purchased and showcased in 1995, just before the final offensive actions in the war. However, it was never operational. There are no plans to purchase long range SAMs at this point. (see Table 1 and Table 2 attached at the bottom)


New weapons:


1. Croatia has METIS ATGMs which are not available in the game (see Table 2 attached at the bottom)

2. New Iveco LMVs were bought for our forces in Afghanistan, I believe during 2007
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Ivecohvxz7.jpg

3. Croatia did buy new Mi-171Sh from Russia (first helicopters arrived in November 2007) which are armed with unguided rockets (57mm) and door guns (7.62mm)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...esentation.jpg


Future considerations:

1. Wheeled APCs: Finnish Patria 8x8 has won this job and the first vehicles are set to be delivered before the end of 2008. Unfortunately, the only word of the armament on Patria’s so far is 12.7mm machine gun. It is expected that Patrias are also going to be equipped with ATGMs, but no further news on that.
http://www.patria.fi/index.asp?id=CF...aytmp=2005_eng


From the official document of the Croatia’s Ministry of Defence, Long Term Development Plan of the Armed Forces 2006 – 2015:

Table 1

Table 2
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