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Old July 29th, 2004, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: fire blessing lvl 9 : armorpiercing 8 ap fire weapons ? anti-vq strat discussing

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Originally posted by Arryn:
"Quite safe" is not quite the way I think about it. 1.29 is the statistically average damage, not something I'd personally rely upon. Also, those 20 prot elite Ulms don't have a lot of HPs, so it won't take all that many average hits to kill them, especially since defense drops as units take damage and fatigue. Swarm (outnumber) those Ulms with fire-blessed troops and they'll die rather distressingly quickly.

Of course, those Ulms are going to be methodically chopping up your units during the battle, but that's why you'll be outnumbering them. Going one-on-one (or one-on-many) against high-prot Ulms is not advised unless you are using SCs or Jotuns. And attacking Ulms at less than 6:1 is not something I do with non-Jotuns if I can help it.
hm you are right . i had in mind especially following scenario : ulm vs marignon .

ulm can produce their black knights everywhere and marignon can only produce their knights of the chalice in the capitol .
so they are limited to 2-3 resourcewise / turn even lategame .

that way you should be able as ulm to get a 2:1 ratio black knights against knights of the chalice .

what i hadn't in mind is that the knights of the chalice are very superior to ulmish black knights .
the ulmish black knight has 24 protection so the avg. damage from a knight of the chalice hit is reduced to 0.754 hp .

but now comes the big fault in my model . i did only look at this aspect but it works the other way round too .
a knight of ulm has very inferior att/def Ratings to a blessed knight of the chalice .
so he hits rarely . because he has no ap damage the 20 protection of the knight of the chalice reduce ulms morning star attack to 1.67 avg damage too but fatigue left out 2 knights of ulm have following attack success odds : 1 knight 37.605% , 2 knight 45.773% .
the knight of the chalice has 93.822% hitting odd .

although in theory after turn 10-15 you should be able to field 2 knights of ulm against 1 knight of the chalice even then they have a not too easy time to defeat him.
taken into account that marignon will have x-bows with flaming arrows then and some wizards doing fire spells while ulm can only counter most likely with blade winds ( useless against knights of the chalice ) and their weaker arlabest-bows ulm has bad odds .

but in midgame once ulm reached weapons of sharpness the odds should change in favour to the mass produceable knights of ulm .
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