Hungarian OOB 5.5

[Pibwl]

Less extensive suggestions, than for the Czech one.

002, 003 T-34/85 M1947 - "M1947" isn't original designation, possibly used by some modern sources, and is IMO redundant, since they are the only T-34s in the OOB.
It's worth to replace 5 AP with Sabot (standard Russian load of Sabot, in early T-34/85 at least).

I wrote in other place, that Soviet standard load was 36 HE, 19AP/Sabot - but 30 HE, 25 AP/Sabot should be OK as well. I've just found 30/25 in a Polish book, possibly from Polish 1962 manual. It might concern also Polish OOB, if 002 T-34/85 was changed there to 36 HE, 19 AP/Sabot. It's sure better for a tank game.

011-13 T-55AM - proper picture of AM with extra armour is 11150. According to Polish nTW-4/99 magazine, Hungary has T-55s with Czech Kladivo FCS (as also these photos show http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRF/index...mid=11&lang=en ) so they should have FC 25 and laser RF, like in the Czech OOB (now only FC 15, RF 6). Probably also SD should be doubled (8 tubes).

016 T-72M1 - starting date at 1/100 is doubtful - I guess, though it's hard to find sources, that T-72M1 were delivered to Hungary at the same time, as to other Warsaw Pact members - maybe a bit later, say 1/88, maybe 1/89. It would be little likely to buy these tanks in 2000, when they were definitely obsolete. nTW-4/99 magazine (info probably based upon Military Balance 1998/99) says, that Hungary has T-72M/M1 tanks.
Of course, if we make if available earlier, it should have earlier gun, so it might be split in two units. But I don't know, if the Hungarians bought new ammo, especially multi-charge Heat, which are quite rare designs.
FC is 25, while Soviet T-72A has FC 20 (which seems closer to truth for ordinary A/M1).

025 ISU-122 - the picture is in fact ISU-152 (thick barrel with a muzzle brake). Proper ISU-122 is 0089 (or 29047 or 11260). Ammo load should be only 30 - approx. half HE and AP, with no Heat (now 40).

026 SU-76M - standard Russian ammo load was 31 HE, 19 AP and 10 sabot (now: HE 20, AP 20, Heat 20).

030 BRDM-1 Shmel - better picture is 29057 (current one 11031 is 2P32 Falanga). They carried only 6 missiles (3 + 3 reloads - now: 8 - for all countries). Correct icon with 3 missiles is 2945. Starting date at 1/61 is very doubtful, since only in 8/60 it was commissioned in the USSR, and then started its production. Realistic date is some 1962-63.

033, 038 BRDM-2 Malutka - Malutka-P didn't replace ordinary Malutka from 1/100, but rather from the beginning it should be semi-automatic 9P133 Malutka-P (on photos from some Hungarian museum http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRF/index...mid=11&lang=en ). Ordinary Malutka on BRDM-2 (9P122 vehicle) was produced for a short time and mostly exported to Arab countries. In 2000, the Hungarians would have to be mad to buy obsolete Malutka-P system.

There should ba added BRDM-2 Konkurs, or rather Konkursz, as is locally spelled (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHlAdzqlKA at 1:58). I guess, from mid-80s.
May be instead of 418 BRDM-2 HOT

049 SA-4 Ganef - proper name 2K11 Krug. Withdrawn in 1997 (now: 12/100) [source Raport 9/2002 magazine]

050 SA-6 Gainful - there could be created modernized SA-6 (properly 2K12 Kub) from 2003 - electronics was improved in Poland (less prone to jamming, better radar range) and part of fire control vehicles were fitted with TI.

052 BRDM-1 - very rarely (if at all) armed with DShK MG - normal armament was just one 7.62mm AAMG (for all countries).

#058 D-422 FUG - FUG was produced from 1963, commissioned in 1964 (now 1/66) [nTW3/98].

065 BMP-1 - as I wrote in other place, BMP-1 don't carry semi-automatically guided Malutka-P, just ordinary Malutka (Malutka-P can be fired in manual mode, without improved accuracy). I don't know, if the Hungarians modified guns in BMP-1.

066 PSzH-IV (light APC) - correct picture is 23484. I don't think if vision 30 is justified - it had ordinary active night sights.

67 Heavy Truck - better picture, and fit to icon with long nose, is 11067 (similar to Hungarian Csepel http://mhrfweb.makett.org/MHRF/index...mid=11&lang=en BTW - current one is typically Polish Star 660)

68 B10 Recoilless - 1/50 is impossible, since it was accepted by the Soviets in 1954. Realistic date is 1/55 (as in Poland)

72 Malutka ATGM - it is doubtful, if Malutka team carried also RPG-7 with rockets, apart from 18-kg missiles.

(in fact, Russian sources suggest, that 3-men crew carried only a guidance device and 2 missiles, but it would decrease playability I'm afraid...)

76 75mm AT-Gun - proper pic of PAK-40 is 23008 - current one is French mle.97 on PAK-38 chassis (what was its name?..)

77 45mm AT-Gun - proper pic of Soviet 45mm is eg. 29422. Better (smaller) icon is 54 or 55

85 100mm T-12 ATG - probably it should end later (now 12/89). We have another unit #550 after this date, with Kastet missiles, but I guess, that not every gun has missiles (I don't know if they are used in Hungary at all, BTW)

91 122mm Field Gun - a cosmetic change, but better icon is 59 (shorter howitzer barrel)

Weapon 112 122mm obr38 has too much range 209 - correct is 202 (Russian oob #112 122mm M-30 FH)

92 122mm Field Gun - I haven't found info, if the Hungarians had these guns. List of Hungarian armament in nTW 4/1999 doesn't list D-30, only 230 of M.38 howitzers (info probably based upon Military Balance 98/99)

98 Malutka-2 ATGM - as I wrote in other place, Malutka-2 was a Russian recent export proposal with twin Heat, not semi-automatic Malutka-P for SP-launchers. This unit should be in fact ordinary Malutka ATGM, with normal #145 Malutka. Same comment on RPG-7, as #72

99 85mm AT-Gun - 162 guns still listed in 1999 (now ending date 78)

Regards
Michal