Crew Insurection question

von_toaster · #1 November 20th, 2002, 10:12 PM

Quick question for you guys. Can a mothballed ship become a victim of crew insurection (even though, in theory, the crew has been removed)?

mlmbd · #2 November 20th, 2002, 10:34 PM

I think so. Unless you refit it with a master computer.

mlmbd

capnq · #3 November 21st, 2002, 12:02 AM

Master Computers protect against Allegiance Subverters (a Psychic weapon); I don't think they're immune to Crew Insurrection (an intel op).

Krsqk · #4 November 21st, 2002, 03:17 PM

What happens if you subvert or insurrect a mothballed ship? Is it still mothballed? Is the taking party then stuck with a useless ship and no way to unmothball it?

capnq · #5 November 21st, 2002, 11:10 PM

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What happens if you subvert or insurrect a mothballed ship? Is it still mothballed?

I'd expect so. A mothballed ship that is teleported by a Spacial Anomaly event stays mothballed.

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Is the taking party then stuck with a useless ship and no way to unmothball it?

They'd have to get a shipyard ship to that sector to unmothball it.

I don't know whether it's possible to trade or give away a mothballed ship. Has anybody ever tried that?

Pablo · #6 November 22nd, 2002, 01:33 PM

I think it is possible to self-destruct if the device is installed.

von_toaster · #7 November 22nd, 2002, 05:17 PM

I ran a couple of simulations, and I discovered that trying a Crew Insurection of a ship stationned at a Homeworld is much harder to get than a ship wandering around. I still wasn't able to capture a mothballed ship (the operatives were always coming up lacking). Is there a bonus applied to counter-intelligence for planets?

Krsqk · #8 November 22nd, 2002, 05:21 PM

Did you try stealing a ship mothballed in empty space (i.e., by a SYS)?

von_toaster · #9 November 22nd, 2002, 05:50 PM

Yup, did try, doesn't seem to work. Also, it seems that you cannot target specifically a mothballed ship with Crew Insurection, unless you have a Partnership treaty with the victim (then you can see the mothballed ship).
So, it seems that mothballing a ship prevents capture via intel projects, whether the ship is on a planet or not.

von_toaster · #10 November 22nd, 2002, 05:59 PM

Oh yeah, and I did try to give and trade mothballed ship. They stay mothballed, even with the new ownership. So the new owner must be able to unmothball the ship on its own. Kind of a bad gift.