Question about Ukraine OOB...

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

So, what do you think happened with the OPLOT/OPLOT-M? They also got A/C (I mean this as a general term.) and Chill water systems to support all the above including laser systems as well.

The "original" T-90Ms pre-war had A/C installed. The latest "war mobilization" don't. You can see this in interior views of the latest T-90M 2023 models where the A/C control panel has been removed and replaced with a conventional (famous) russian floppy plastic fan for ventilation.

[MarkSheppard]

https://twitter.com/AndreiBtvt/statu...84359725822409

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense has officially adopted three modifications of Leopard tanks for the AFU - Leopard 2A6, Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 1A5 tanks. The corresponding orders were signed by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Rustem Umerov.

[MarkSheppard]

https://twitter.com/AndreiBtvt/statu...57182767169669

An interview in which a soldier claims the new missiles for TOS-2 have a maximum range of 20 km (?) and at 0:14, a nice top shot for icons:

[DRG]

It'll be a few months before the next OOB update which will give more time for research but

https://www.deagel.com/Weapons/M0.1.01.04M/a003355

Shows max range 10km for the M0.1.01.04M2

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukra...n_ukraine.html

shows

The TOS-2 is able to fire fuel-air explosive rockets also called thermobaric ammunition and can also fire a full range of 220mm unguided rockets. Using thermobaric rockets, the TOS-2 has a firing range from 3.5 to 10 km.

That info differs from the info in Post #90 as this seems to suggest the min range is 3500m as opposed to 1600m

So unless there is a new version nobody knows about except the X poster it has the same range as Russian OOB weapon 150 so I need to do a bit more digging into this to see a new one exists that hasn't been documented yet

Good 3D view here

https://p.turbosquid.com/ts-thumb/E8...os2_prev06.jpg

WIP

[DRG]

Also, both

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=17571fa1b876

and

https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukra...r-50p_apc.html

Report

Seven months ago, the Kremlin began pulling out of long-term storage BTR-50 tracked armored personnel carriers, up-arming them in some cases and sending them toward the front line in Ukraine.

It was a remarkable development. The BTR-50 is old. As its designation implies, it was designed and first fielded in the 1950s.

But after 21 months of hard fighting that has cost the Russian military thousands of fighting vehicles, the Kremlin is desperate for replacement APCs. Seventy-year-old BTR-50s sometimes are the best it can do.

A BTR-50 apparently was among the Russian losses after Ukrainian mines, artillery, drones and anti-tank teams smashed several long columns of armored vehicles attempting to flank Avdiivka from the south and north.

In a heady several days of fighting, the Russians lost scores of vehicles. It seems one BTR-50 rolled over a mine, exploded and flipped upside down. A Ukrainian drone captured the carnage as the bodies of the BTR’s occupants spilled onto the road.

and as a summation ( Forbes )

As a symbol, the attack so far has failed. If the assault stands for anything, it stands for failure. The Kremlin sent troops to die in an obsolete vehicle as part of an ill-prepared force pursuing an objective with little real military value.

[Suhiir]

Originally Posted by DRG

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Nothing wrong with the BTR-50 as a battle taxi. Heck the AAV-7(1972), LVT-5 (1956), and M3 Halftrack (1941) are still in use. That said sending ANY battle taxi into the front lines is dangerous. They should unload at the closest available covered spot to the front lines and get outta Dodge.

[DRG]

......sometimes the "closest available covered spot " is hard to find or not as covered as was thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgD4w8y7LVI

[Suhiir]

S--t happens.

If war was safe maybe we could convince the politicians fight them and let the young folk stay home.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

https://twitter.com/AndreiBtvt/statu...84359725822409

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense has officially adopted three modifications of Leopard tanks for the AFU - Leopard 2A6, Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 1A5 tanks. The corresponding orders were signed by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Rustem Umerov.

Someone else on Twitter pointed out the significance of this -- officially adopting them is a very strong sign that the AFU is going to keep these Leopard marks postwar.

[MarkSheppard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...ls_great_fear/

StrV 122s (aka Leo 2A5 variant) are shown near the front with their "Barracuda" anti-IR camouflage installed.