Don was getting that "SECURI" notification again and had to delete all my references concerning the below You know how I do business for now based on that the below is good. I had 10-12 refs to support what I have below but am "burnt out" at present the one's about NORWAY are good. Something on Shrapnel's security side must not like "linked" articles attached to MSN and Yahoo. It's just my best guess because one or the other above caused an issue you might remember on a post; I sent a PM to you on within the last months. I was able to post it upon removal. Just would be nice to know if the site changed its security protocols concerning refs from the web, never saw this "SECURI" issue until recently but verified that is a web-based security firm.
They actually were around for much longer the
COMMANCHE see "
FBPP" for the following:
Page 3; Post #27 11-21-10, 07:40 PM Item 4 and
Page 4; Post #40 01-23-11, 09:03 PM HELO Section Items D3. & D4. (Israel) bottom of the page.
That a small part of
3 almost full pages of submissions in the Patch Post Thread in the time above.
My favorite post was when I submitted the
NH-90 (Top of
Page 5 Item A4.) (That turned out to be a
very unreliable helicopter.) for the "
hidden" OOB of
NEW ZEALAND I came across in the game!?!
Anyway to say the least it didn't get in the game. 
I think Don would agree if he went done "
memory lane" after this would agree was "
one heck of a year" or something like that.
Also submitted a couple of more "
clean up" items at the very bottom of that same page, one of which I believe went back to the original game.
New Zealand above, just reminded me of the following:
AUSTRAILIA/CHANGE/NZ MH-90/UNIT 446/NAME/NH-90 Taipan VICE NZ NH-90 (Sorry I had to laugh when I saw that given the above!)/END DATE/SEP 2023 VICE DEC 2025. // These helicopters have been nothing but trouble since they've operated. Germany is another major operator that's had problems with one European operator telling the manufacturer to take theirs back, and they did. A second tragic crash late last Summer was "
The straw that broke the camel's back. "
They were planned to be in service until
2037.
And as seems usual when I find things: 
NEVER MIND the at first, I thought there was more to the next until I rechecked it.
AUSTRAILIA/CHANGE/S-70 BLACKHAWK/UNIT 444/NAME/S-70A-9 Black Hawk VICE S-70 BLACKHAWK. // A minor change for a rainy day but it is their designation.
AUSTRAILIA/CHANGE/UH-60 Blackhawk/UNIT 445/NAME/UH-60M Black Hawk VICE UH-60 Blackhawk/START DATE/JUN/or OCT 2024 VICE APR 2024. // They only have 3 helos at this time being used for training. Thought I saw an article where they were thinking of leasing more from the USA
to expediate the training program. As you might remember I get the OFFICIAL Army "Newspaper" every week so like with the BOXER you'll have the FOC when I get it from them.
And BEFORE SOMEONE THINKS ABOUT IT, OFFICIAL means just that and NOT like ARMY TIMES/NAVY TIMES/MARINE CORPS TIMES etc. here.
Worthwhile "bits" from the above refs.:
"The irony of the entire Australian NH90 fiasco is that the nightmare helicopter was originally selected in preference to the UH-60M Black Hawk under the Air 9000 Australian Additional Battlefield Mobility Helicopter program back in 2004-05, apparently due to political and industrial considerations rather than operational ones."
"Australia is also expecting the delivery of new AH-64E Apache helicopters starting in 2025, to replace the Eurocopter EC665 Tiger attack helicopters."
IN CLOSING:
Concerning the NH-90 Taipan I can see END DATE of JUL 2023 as they did not fly again after the accident that month. What I summitted though was the official date vice the "safety-stand down" date. .
NORWAY was the country that has cancelled the contract and told them to come and get the rest.
"The Defense Ministry is concerned that “as of today, only eight have been delivered in a fully operational configuration. The fleet is currently required to provide 3,900 flight hours annually but in recent years it has averaged only about 700 hours.”
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/06/...r-replacement/
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...demands-refund
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...rs-with-mh-60r
(Between 2025-2027.)
Australia
ALSO operates the
MH-60R I didn't see it in the OOB. Bit tired if you or someone else wants to check
please.
I believe I read they were on loan from the Navy for operational and ground support.
I can run this down tomorrow for info you need all I want is OOB VERIFICATION AND IF YOU WANT THEM IN IF NOT THERE.
This has been CAPS LOCK OR NOT mess throughout this post all day yesterday doing checks in
continuous rain for over 8 hours and 7.5 miles. Unable to sleep (And counting sheep felt like I was checking buildings, magazines and other things again. If they come again tonight
I'll sheer them and roast them when I'm finished. 
)
Regards,
Pat
Added 2250 my time.
From the Army News edition dated 31 August 2023 about 6 weeks after the crash and grounding of the NH-90; I highlighted key data below to support JULY END DATE which is more plausible now based on next below AHEAD of the article.
If you recall I discussed a similar issue with South Africa having grounded their ROOIVALK for 18 months (Which we did as well.) with a gap until I submitted the ROOIVALK Mk I when it became operational.
See FBPP Thread Page 11 Post #105 in A1 & C6 for more.
"Combined air assault a success
Capt Joanne Leca
Soldiers from 4 Regt, RAA take up positions during a
bilateral air assault exercise on Exercise Alon. Photos: LCpl Riley Blennerhassett
MORE than 600 soldiers from the ADF, Philippines and US conducted an air assault near Rizal, the Philippines, during
Exercise Alon as part of Indo-Pacific Endeavour.
Using a combination of
air, sea, and land actions, with
support from the US Marine Corps, the exercise began on
August 20 with insertion of ground combat elements via MV-22B Osprey from MRF-D (USMC-Mine), launched from HMAS Canberra.
Close air support was provided by RAAF E-7A Wedge tail and F-35A Lightning II aircraft.
A helicopter assault force then established a link with the 3rd Philippine Marine Bde to secure the Punta Baja Airfield, and set up a forward arming and refuelling point.
On August 21, a joint raid was conducted at Tarumpitao Airfield by the combined forces, also with close air support.
Lt Isaac Jarvinen, of 1RAR, takes cover behind a wall during the air assault.
Lt-Col Noel A Gallaza, commander of the Philippines landing force, said the exercise demonstrated the defence forces’ collective strength to face any challenge.
“Only together, with our combined capabilities, equipment and soldiers can we promote security and stability in our region,” Lt-Col Gallaza said.
“It’s about unity and collaboration with our partners, that is why we are here.”
The event marked the first major training serial of the bilateral cooperation between the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the ADF as part of Indo-Pacific Endeavour 2023.
Commander landing force of th e Australian Amphibious Force Col Douglas Pashley said the activity was a tremendous success.
“I’m very impressed with the degree of integration and partnership I’ve seen on this exercise,” Col Pashley said.
“We came together less than two weeks ago, and then we were able to conduct a complex multinational air assault.
“We never do things alone; we always need a partner.
“Young Australians, Filipinos and US marines will remember this for the rest of their lives.”
Regards,
Pat
Re: Helo News game related.
Re: Helo News game related.
) The first is where I found this out and the second goes into greater detail on how it's affected other USA helicopter programs along with some "pipe dreams" such as the COMMANCHE (And now FARA.) and others.
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