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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
https://www.csis.org/analysis/send-swarm
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Send In the Swarm
March 24, 2022
This quick take is part of our Crisis Crossroads series, which highlights timely analysis by CSIS scholars on the evolving situation in Ukraine and its security, economic, energy, and humanitarian effects.
The recent announcement that United States will send switchblade drones to Ukraine reflects the changing character of war and the importance of swarming. Swarming involves saturating a target with multiple small strikes as opposed to one decisive blow. By expanding arms transfers to include more capable swarming systems like the Israeli loitering munitions seen in Nagorno-Karabakh as well as new U.S. Marine capabilities like the Hero-120, the West can help Kyiv break the Russian sieges currently holding Ukrainian cities hostage.
Ukraine has already adapted tactical-level swarms to slow Russia’s advance. Similar to Finnish motti tactics, dispersed ambush teams attack Russian lines of communication to compound Moscow’s logistical challenges. In multiple instances, the Ukrainian armed forces have used drones to target artillery raids against Russian-seized airbases in Ukraine, including destroying as many as 30 vehicles and helicopters in Kherson.
Expanding the range and types of loitering munitions available to Ukraine will help them build on this success. The greatest threat to Ukraine right now is the ability of Russia to siege Ukrainian cities. The closer the Russian army gets to Kyiv, the more artillery and missile barrages it can fire on urban areas, putting pressure on Ukraine’s leaders to accept Russian demands. While surface-to-air missile transfers can help stop Russian aircraft and cruise missiles, they cannot stop artillery strikes. The same goes for anti-tank guided missiles, which perform the best ambushing convoys.
While the concept of swarming is as old as horse archers from ancient history, low-cost drones and persistent surveillance networks provide new technical means to the tactic. The result is an approach called mosaic that seeks to overwhelm adversaries short of a single, decisive battle.
Applied to the current war, long-range loitering munitions provide Ukrainian forces options for swarming Russian artillery and missile batteries striking cities like Kyiv and Mariupol. Faced with the prospect of suicide drones attacking their firing positions, already stretched Russian forces would have to pull back or reduce the volume of fire. The more Russian artillery and missile units Ukraine attacks, the harder it will become for Moscow to use medieval sieges as a negotiation tactic.
Swarming offers a low-cost, low-risk way of helping Ukraine defend its sovereign territory. Combined with sending surface-to-air missiles, it makes it more difficult for Russia to keep attacking Ukrainian cities in a way that limits escalation risks and helps accelerate a negotiated settlement.
Benjamin Jensen is a senior fellow for future war, gaming, and strategy in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.
Commentary is produced by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a private, tax-exempt institution focusing on international public policy issues. Its research is nonpartisan and nonproprietary. CSIS does not take specific policy positions. Accordingly, all views, positions, and conclusions expressed in this publication should be understood to be solely those of the author(s).
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I added Switchblades to the Ukrainian OOB a couple weeks ago along with drones using the light helicopter unitclass and the Switchblades will also be found in the USA and British OOB under the control of elite specialist units ( Ukraine Spetsnaz, US Ranger , British RM Cdo ) The spotter drones were added to 19 OOB's
....and yes, when used together they are quite effective
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha...h=66b61c5a7e6b
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UPDATE: The Pentagon has confirmed that the new batch will also include 10 Switchblade 600 models — the much larger version of the loitering munition. We looked at the Switchblade 600 when it was launched in 2020. This is a 50-pound weapon rather than a 5-pound one, with a range in excess of 50 miles. And it has a much larger warhead, described as having similar effects to a Javelin missile. In other words, it can take out the heaviest Russian tanks. Again, the 600 can be teamed with Puma drones to ensure the highest-value targets are found and hit and no Switchblade is wasted.
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I have not included this larger version of the Switchblade into the OOB's.........yet ........due to its very limited availability but one could easily be simulated by using the Israeli Hafiz / Spike NLOS coupled with a spotter drone
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April 6th, 2022, 03:15 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Sudden urge to watch Ender's Game.
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
I don't know how accurate this "legion of Russians" is, but I thought to share this video.
I read about it a few more times, but I don't really have any facts about it.
It almost sounds like they are not going to fight inside Ukraine, but in Russia. I don't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ61bjLhhww
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Overall sounds like the update will be ready when it's ready. I'll download it when it's done.
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April 9th, 2022, 10:09 AM
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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Overall sounds like the update will be ready when it's ready. I'll download it when it's done.
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Check back in a couple of weeks, by then we should have a better idea of a release date. FOR SURE it won't be next week
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
For a lot of reasons expect this year to be the last update for both games. If there's another one it's because something SERIOUSLY needs fixing or we both had brain farts and forgot what a massive PITA it is to do this every year.
24 years is a long time to do anything
Also do not expect the number of scenarios in either game like in the past few years. Neither of our main scenario / campaign contributors have had a good year in any way, shape or form.
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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For a lot of reasons expect this year to be the last update for both games. If there's another one it's because something SERIOUSLY needs fixing or we both had brain farts and forgot what a massive PITA it is to do this every year.
24 years is a long time to do anything
Also do not expect the number of scenarios in either game like in the past few years. Neither of our main scenario / campaign contributors have had a good year in any way, shape or form.
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Just wanted to give a quick thank you for the hard work you guys have done to keep this game going all these years. Hope we will all still be playing this for many years to come.
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Just wanted to give a quick thank you for the hard work you guys have done to keep this game going all these years.
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Hope we will all still be playing this for many years to come.
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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Who would have thought we'd see something like this a month ago ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE9finPXF3o
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