APC Development and related topics. - Page 48

MarkSheppard · #**471** February 19th, 2019, 05:52 PM

Chinese companies are floating preliminary HIFV concepts:

Concept of NORINCO VT-4 Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle (HIFV) displayed at IDEX 2019. Noticed the shared chassis with VT-4 Main Battle Tank, which would provide the vehicle with significant protection and mobility.

It's a long way from actual production; just here to show you what NORINCO is thinking about in the East....

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**472** August 15th, 2019, 06:54 PM

This is by way of an UPDATE concerning the AJAX. JANE's is reporting with the following ref. the same thing I reported using a different source before the end of the year, where I submitted a START date change to the right to JUNE 2020 I believe it was.

From the article "British Army crews will begin trialing the turreted reconnaissance version of the Ajax family of armoured vehicles during the third quarter of this year, according to the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD)." That's in 2019. And...

"...the ministry told Jane’s that the first squadron-sized sub-unit will be equipped with the full complement of the variant in early 2020 ahead of the initial operating capability (IOC) being declared the following July."

I took a gamble on FOC being reached at that time (As submitted.) because the UK has been staying ahead of schedule in the testing program to date. Apparently it's meeting expectations and proving very reliable thus far.

Please remember I have no access to the game or my notes at this time. I will endeavor in the meantime to recover that post which I think is in the MBT Thread that also contained a START Date change for the Israeli ENTAN.
https://www.janes.com/article/87527/...s-by-september
https://des.mod.uk/what-we-do/army-p...-support/ajax/
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-gb...-vehicles.html

Ref. 3 (Manufacturer) is indicating trials will be ongoing until 9/2020.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**473** August 16th, 2019, 10:21 AM

I found the "offending" post to my last, it's in the IDF OOB project by GingerTanker on Pg. 8 Post #80 of this forum. Though tracking for EITAN not so much for the AJAX. So much for "crystal balls" especially when overcome by newer references (For both that also pushed them back.) since that post was submitted last Nov.

Just following up is all.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**474** August 23rd, 2019, 12:55 AM

Looks like this morning I'll be brief for a change as I have some pressing issues to take care before I hit the rack. While looking into the Turkish M-60 variant issue I came across the following from Ref. 1 and their coverage of IDEF 2019.

IDF EITAN is still in the Prototype/OPEVAL phase. First "Iron Fist Light Decoupled" (IFLD) has been selected for the EITAN. The reference is also stating that the USA has just ahead of the IDF, chosen the same system for the BRADLEY AFV.
https://armyrecognition.com/august_2...on_system.html
https://armyrecognition.com/israel_i...res_video.html

Regards,
Pat

DRG · #**475** August 23rd, 2019, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

IDF EITAN is still in the Prototype/OPEVAL phase. First "Iron Fist Light Decoupled" (IFLD) has been selected for the EITAN. The reference is also stating that the USA has just ahead of the IDF, chosen the same system for the BRADLEY AFV.

USA unit 887

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**476** September 17th, 2019, 02:37 PM

First, Don thank you for your last reply previous this post.

This next is a "good news, bad news" story. First the good news as Australia has "down selected" the Rheinmetall Lynx KF41 IFV to compete against the Hanwha Defense' Redback IFV from South Korea in the LAND 400 Phase 3 competition.
https://www.janes.com/article/91297/...fv-requirement
https://www.armyrecognition.com/sept...3_program.html

If the BOXER competition (LAND 400 Phase 2.) from a couple of years ago is any indication, that'll take a year. Further testing and modification by the ADF with any additional contract issues, that could possibly add another 6 months.

Bottom-line for the ADF, they want them in the field by early 2026, and there you have the "Bad News" for us.

More on the REDBACK but, note the company site does not mention the 40mm MG or APS, however, on newer articles both are noted as available on the net. I provide it because it has more of the data we need to build it.
https://www.hanwha-defense.co.kr/eng...illery-as21.do
https://www.armyrecognition.com/sept...n_m113as4.html

I expect as I was asked to look into for the ADF BOXER, which ever they choose it'll have the largest MG the type is designed and tested to carry. So I believe then, whichever will carry the 40mm and APS.

My pick I feel has to go to the LYNX KF41. The main reason for this is the BOXER faced tough competition during the Phase 2 part of the LAND 400 Program and won it handling. Now Rheinmetall is embedded and established in Australia in the production of the BOXER.

But the AS21 REDBACK is an excellent IFV but, I'm not sure it's quite as good as the LYNX and again, also for the reason stated in the prior para.

JAPAN has selected it's 3rd competitor in it's APC/IFV competition the Patria AMVXP (This is still a concept vehicle).
https://www.armyrecognition.com/sept..._in_japan.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/finl...cept_data.html

The others are the...
https://www.weaponews.com/news/65354...-vehicles.html

Note Japan's MAV is the "cousin" if you will to the MCV I submitted for the last patch which is a "gun carrier". I see the MAV has "similar lines" to the BOXER at a "quick" look.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**477** January 20th, 2020, 10:33 PM

This just as a "heads up" concerning the UK AJAX. Janes in reporting with the UK having only five AJAX's as test beds, the 6th is now delayed along with the first production set.

UK MOD still is hoping for JULY 2010 IOC date for the AJAX.
Not sure where we're at with the AJAX but, I remember we did a push back (Or discussed it.) on it within the last couple of years, so this might not be an issue at this time.

However, reporting now as JANE's is the only one doing so at this moment. Also due to shorter (And only because I like this word.) nature of their posts expiry date.
https://www.janes.com/article/93758/...h-army-delayed

Back to whatever it was I was doing.

Regards,
Pat

DRG · #**478** January 21st, 2020, 01:23 AM

It's July 2020 right now. I may push it forward or not

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #**479** January 21st, 2020, 01:51 AM

Don,
Don't push it forward, that's in line now for the "projected" IOC date, the real issue here is will we need to "push it back" for FOC.

Also see Post #472 above on this page. That was convenient for a change!

Regards,
Pat

AtomicTank · #**480** March 14th, 2020, 02:38 PM

Sorry if someone has already made a request

Could you add
EBRC Jaguar for France and Belgium

Source:
https://www.armyrecognition.com/fren..._pictures.html

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/act...n-et-le-jaguar (in French)

https://www.defense.gouv.fr/actualit...ffon-et-jaguar (In French)

https://defpost.com/belgium-orders-3...ored-vehicles/

Thanks