No Diplo EA Game - No Wankers Allowed - Game Over, Baalz/Abysia Wins

[Executor]

I don't think you need to have map file, just the map image.

Anyway, we've hit the start button about an hour ago and the game has not yet started, it has rather disappeared from the Llamaserver.
This has never happened to me before, but than again it just might be the Llamserver taking it's time, I don't know
If the game doesn't appear soon I will PM Llamabeast for help, hopefully the game won't have to be recreated.

[Marmaduke]

Shouldn't we switch to CBM 1.7 (just released) while it's still time?

[Aethyr]

I don't know if I'd agree. I've only given it a breif review, but some of the changes could be pretty significant since folks have already designed their pretenders. I'd hate to see the start delayed for all the tweaking that might follow.

[Saros]

This happened for another game I am in. We had to remake the game.

[Marmaduke]

Well, this game could last many months. It is not too late to change our pretenders accordingly in order to benefit from the up to date mod.
No big deal going with 1.6 as planned, though. Executor?

[Calahan]

I don't know, I go off the scene for a few days and the entire game disappears

My understanding is that the 'llamaserver disappearing game' trick is connected to the map naming somehow, and the options for fixing it are to either PM llama and wait until he can fit sorting it out into his busy schedule. Or take the initiative and just re-create the game.

I'm disappearing again now for a few days (only here now as I had to come into work for a few hours). Should be back before the weekend to resume admin duties here.


I would strongly advise against using CBM 1.7 as well. It seems to me to need a fair bit of testing due to some of the major changes it has made, and a game this size with this many players is not the place for testing, as some nations could be seriously disadvantaged due to the changes, and have their chances ruined due to no fault of the player(s). (and basic beta testing can be done in small quick throw-away games)

[Executor]

I don't think switching to CBM 1.7 is a good idea, it is still in beta and it has a far too big impact on some of the nations. I dislike the idea of adding a mod that hasn't been tested and used yet. And not to mention it would take additional time to test and recreate some nations pretenders.

I've PM'd Llama yesterday and from the likes of it he still hasn't seen the PM. I understand he's a busy man and given the fact we could be waiting for him for a while it might be better to just recreate the game and resend all pretenders?
Quick thoughts everyone? Recreate or wait for Llama?

[Kobal2]

Can't we do both ? If llama pipes up before all pretenders are up on the new game, good. If not, we roll with the new game. Either way, we get going as fast as possible and the workload is roughly the same for llama.

Or did I miss something ?

(oh, and count me out too on the new CBM. Too many untested changes, balance could be all wonky and we'd find out in two months. No thanks.)

[Executor]

Kobal2 has recreated the game for us since I can't access Llamaserver's map browser for some reason.
While we wait for Llama to respond, you should all resend pretenders, the new game name is 'No_Wankers_Allowed', and we'll see which way is faster.

Cheers.

[Executor]

Originally Posted by llamabeast

Indeed! Please do not upload a map with spaces in the name. It might accept it (which is a somewhat mysterious bug), but instead of starting, your game will disappear, and then I will have to go and fix it.

Well I think this answers the question why the game vanished.
I'll get someone to upload the map under a different name and I guess it should work this time.

Please send pretenders.