New Star Trek Movie: Story Theories

[Atrocities]

Issues that upon reflection kinda weaken my love for this movie a tad.

1. Recruit to Captain in 3 years.
2. Planet to ship at warp transporter
3. From Earth to Vulcan in 5 minutes
4. For not supposedly knowing the Romulans, they weren't surprised at seeing one. (oops - Old TOS time line)
5. The internal design of the ships. As BK pointed out.
6. How many people could fit into a shuttle? I counted 13 shuttles leaving the Kelvin and there were suppose to be 800 people on them?
7. Why did Nero's ship look like the asteroid from Armageddon?
8. Building the Enterprise in Iowa.

There a few more but they are minor. Over all this was a great movie. I look forward to the next one like a giddy child looking forward to Christmas morning.

[Xrati]

I liked the new bridge.
Didn't care for what happened to Vulcan.
Most of the characters looked like their original counterparts, except for Kirk and Checkov!

Now armed with Spocks knowledge, the next movie will end up in borg space!!!

Live Long and Prosper...

[Kana]

Got to love SNL.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/72444/satu...ture-star-trek

[Atrocities]

I have to tell you, I was smiling almost the entire movie. It was such a good feeling to see these characters brought back to life in such a good movie. The theater was packed, and not one person, say for the fat dude and the "Geek club" people, had a bad thing to say about this movie. The line for the next showing went out side and that hasn't happened for a movie in a very long time. So ya, Hats off to JJ Abrams and Star Trek. Its about f***ing time we got a good NSTO (New Star Trek Original) movie.

[Makinus]

Originally Posted by Atrocities

1. Recruit to Captain in 3 years.

According to captain Pike while he is "recruiting" Kirk the normal time would be 8 years, 4 to graduation, ten the cadets would serve for 4 more year in ships until becoming Captains... the 3 years in the movie was because of an emergency...

Originally Posted by Atrocities

2. Planet to ship at warp transporter

According to Spock it was a future development by Scotty in the far future (probably post Star Trek XI, as Scotty was still alive by then).

Originally Posted by Atrocities

3. From Earth to Vulcan in 5 minutes

That was strange!

Originally Posted by Atrocities

4. For not supposedly knowing the Romulans, they weren't surprised at seeing one. (oops - Old TOS time line)

After what happened to the Kelvin Federation was probably more aggressive toward the Romulans, and conceivably meet then sooner.

Originally Posted by Atrocities

5. The internal design of the ships. As BK pointed out.

Yep.

Originally Posted by Atrocities

6. How many people could fit into a shuttle? I counted 13 shuttles leaving the Kelvin and there were suppose to be 800 people on them?

Maybe, or maybe not: Kirk´s mother escaped in "Medical Shuttle 37" that suggest that there are at least 37 shuttles and they had varying types... The shuttle that J Kirk goes to starfleet after "enlisting" appears to be much bigger than the "Medical Shuttle", i estimate that, packed like sardines, it could hold from 20 to 30 people. Maybe the shuttles that we see in the end of the movie beggining sequence are only the last ones to escape from the Kelvin and there are others that escaped sooner.

Originally Posted by Atrocities

7. Why did Nero's ship look like the asteroid from Armageddon?

It was an asteroid miner? Or i´m imagining things?

Originally Posted by Atrocities

8. Building the Enterprise in Iowa.

Yeah, it really doesn´t make sense.

[EaX]

Originally Posted by Black_Knyght

My biggest peeve is that the inside of each Federation ship was so wildly inconsistent! One moment you're in a high-tech, streamline area, the next you're in a early 20th century boiler room.

Haha, i have to agree too, that was just weird.

[Kana]

Originally Posted by Atrocities

3. From Earth to Vulcan in 5 minutes

From one source I have Vulcan is no farther than 20 light years away (looks like between 10 and 15). At a fast enough Warp Factor, that could easily be a short trip. One might have to look on some of the Star Trek sites to see if an actual distance to Vulcan is listed somewhere, and what WF is needed to travel that distance.

[Baron Munchausen]

According to Trek lore Vulcan is supposed to orbit 40 Eridani, which is known to be about 16 light years from our solar system. Covering 16 light years in "five minutes" would require a speed of 1,681,920 times the speed of light. I don't think any warp scale ever used in the Trek universe goes that high. One way or another, either in depicting too high a speed or failing to depict the passage of time correctly, they goofed.

[Atrocities]

Time to get my Trek geekdom on.

I don't care what they say, there is absolutely no way in hell that you can transport from a planet onto a ship traveling at warp speed several, if not dozen, light years from your position. The variables to even consider such a thing boggle the mind. The ships location, speed, space anomalies, the power requirements, the rotation of the planet, etc. I am sorry, but that is one of the most glaring plot holes in the movie.

Would have been better if they just jumped onto a super fast custom made warp shuttle, one where Spock gives Scotty the formula for high yield war drive, and then they beam over from the shuttle while Spock takes it back to Earth.

But just hoping on an old transporter and punching in some numbers then beaming across space to a ship at high warp is just laughable.

[Black_Knyght]

I agree with you there!

That was just entirely too convenient, and a ridiculous stretch just to introduce Old Spock.

But then, dumping Kirk of on the nearest passing planet was ridiculous too. If he was such an issue, toss him in the brig or lock him in his quarters. Ejecting him like garbage was an inane plot device just to connect him and Old Spock without young Spock being around.