LlamaServer: status and bug reports

[Bananadine]

My admin password for Sovarinthy isn't working either. Any help, llamabeast?

[llamabeast]

There may indeed be some issues. Hopefully the admin passwords should start working in a few minutes.

licker - I'll pm you the password.

[llamabeast]

Aaaargh. Okay, I haven't got time to fix it. Sorry to get your hopes up guys. It's really annoying, I know for sure I could get it all sorted given another half an hour, but I have to go - my brother's wedding is in the morning and I can't leave it any later to set off. Sorry!

[licker]

Take your time lb, you've done so much for us already no one is going to be upset about another delay.

[Tifone]

Yep, absolutely no problem, and 'gratz n' best wishes to the brother

[WraithLord]

Just got Victoria turn. Is it for real?

Llama I'd really like to thank you for your heroic efforts on bringing your server (or its replacement) to life.

I would like to report an issue: For last turn, I've sent two .2h files to the server. First one was a half done turn (sent on the 29/10) and a second one (sent on the 30/10) complete with my orders. I still have the email "conversation" saved in my gmail account.
Unfortunately the server has hosted with my half done turn causing me a catastrophic turn
Is it possible to rehost so that the server use my finished .2h file?

I've sent you a detailed PM. Hope its possible to fix that.

[Tifone]

@ Wraith

Llama said some games were accidentally hosted and may need rollbacks... maybe it could be your solution? I think the admin should be able to do that as soon as llama has fixed our beloved server...

[WraithLord]

Originally Posted by Tifone

@ Wraith

Llama said some games were accidentally hosted and may need rollbacks... maybe it could be your solution? I think the admin should be able to do that as soon as llama has fixed our beloved server...

But what does rollback actually do?- Does it rehost with the .2h files the server already has?- In that case the rollback would probably not fix the issue since it might use the same .2h file (the unfinished one) it used for the current hosting.

[Tifone]

Directly from Llamaserver's description of rollback

This will cause the game to return to the previous turn.

Note that I generally recommend not doing this. The main reason for this is the fact that players have already seen the current turn, and so they know what would happen given the set of moves they used last time. Hence, consciously or not, they are very likely to use this information to change their actions next time they submit a turn. Even assuming none of the players' actions are affected, there will always be a suspicion in the mind of the other players if battles turn out significantly differently. Therefore just in the interest of having the game feel completely fair, I think rollbacks are a bad idea.

Having said that, there are situations where rollbacks are called for, which is why I've included the option here.

Read this next bit carefully. I seem to be having difficulties explaining it coherently:

Note that once the game is rolled back, it will appear that the game is waiting for 2h files from all players. However, the 2h files from last time the turn was played will in fact be there, and will be used if the game hosts without them being overwritten. This can be useful; often, a game is rehosted in order for only one or two players to retake their turns, while everyone else is expected to make no changes. The game admin can therefore wait till just those players have submitted, and then force hosting. None of the other players will stale (assuming they actually submitted a 2h file last time the turn was played).

[WraithLord]

Thank you Tifone. So this means that its possible to rollback and have only players who suffered a similar fate to mine submit the turn. right?

That is really helpful. Thanks!