How do you make "Seduction" effective?

[hoo]

Was experimenting with Arco and its main mages(ores) have the seduction ability. I understand it's against morale and I've tried to seduce both indy and enemy commanders in both my own dominion and other folks dominion. I probably tried somewhere between 10-15 times and I never seduced anyone. Then we went to the assassination stage where things were much more effective.

Anyway, is there a way to effectively use some of the seducers and how to you boost it? Penetration items? I recall also struggling with the seduction power of the Nagas as well.

[lch]

Seduction cannot be boosted. Wearing Bear Claw / Cat Talisman has some effect on less / more resistance to seduction. A seduction attempt must pass both a MR and morale check or something, probably at some handicap, check the game manual.

[hoo]

Ah...So I wasn't just imagining things when I saw that seduction is pretty ineffective.

But otoh, doesn't this mean that Arco/BL has assassins? Who really cares if you FAIL the seduction attempt when you can kill the commanders? Maybe it's a two for one deal with a slight (say 5%) chance of seduction but then you get the assassination attempt with some pretty good mages.

but glad to know, that I'm not missing out on anything.

[Taqwus]

Whips and chains, or Heart-finder Swords.

[Humakty]

I must be lucky, cause the first time I tried an Oreiad, she seduced a barbarian commander, who was utterly useless I must say. I think the randomness in the selection of targets makes it almost worthless, at least for Oreiads who cost a darn lot of good pounds of gold, and have better things to do than flirting with barbs. (even if I have nothing to say about what they will do once I'll be the Pantokrator)

[Ironhawk]

I've had decent success with Oreiads. But in that particular situation my capital province was on the verge of being seiged so it was a really low opportunity cost to send them out constantly.

[K]

Note that Seduction is an ability that varies in power based on the specific unit type. Succubus, for example, are dramatically better seducers than say Rakshasi.

[Wikd Thots]

Remember not to send them after female commanders. It only works on guys.

[Tichy]

Except for LA Pythium's new satyrs.

[Edratman]

The title of this thread makes me want to answer - "Liquor, expensive jewelry, and believable lies".

Fortunately I am too classy to say that.