Utility: RanDom v2.03 - Map gen & Semirandomizer... Updated

[Ballbarian]

I will attach the corrected gan file to this post.

[TienIsCoolX]

I clocked in at about 45 minutes, still did not load. CTRL ALT DEL says that DOM3 isn't responding. :\

Gandalf, how do I lower those instances of those specials list? And would it affect my gameplay too much because I really want the indy provinces to be uniqe and extra difficult to take over.

[Gandalf Parker]

The Ctrl-Alt-Del thing isnt important. Basically that says that it asked Dom3 to quit and got no response. Dom3 thinks really hard and does not check for things like being asked to quit.

Like I said, to be sure that it can or cant be used I would ask it to do it overnight. I really like the random stuff.

[TienIsCoolX]

^ Will do, and Gandalf, how big of a map have you SR'ed and played succesfuly?

[Ballbarian]

I think that I may have found the limit.
I created a test map and the last line that appears to have been read by Dom3 is line number 10696.

Gandalf's MegaMap is 9152 lines long.
A SemiRandomized MegaMap reached 46973 lines!
Note that these figures all include comment lines and empty lines which are likely ignored by Dom3, but no guarantees on that.

More testing will be required before I can determine if stripping comment lines and empty lines will help or not.

I typically play on 175 province maps which only reach to about 4000 to 5000 lines est. So it is probably safe to assume that you can run a 350 province map without issue?

[TienIsCoolX]

I just tried a map called "radiance 1.0" and it worked well, the load time was about 4 minutes. By the way, what constitutes a "megamap"? Is there a certain range of provinces that goes by to achieve megamap status?

Oh and about this line stripping thing, would it mean that around 30,000 lines must be taken out?

[Ballbarian]

Gandalf had one of his crazy maps available that was 1495 provinces. It was titled "MegaMap". It was the largest random map that I had in my maps folder so I used it as a gauge.

If my findings are accurate, then yes, 36277 would have to be trimmed.

I hope that when JK returns from his overseas invasion that he can confirm this map line limit and maybe he will even graciously find that changing a single constant somewhere in the code (in a future patch ) will greatly increase the ceiling out of the kindness of his great big programming heart.

[TienIsCoolX]

Dang, well I guess I'll keep myself occupied with some other game till this gets fixed. I don't wanna waste my time with a non SRed 1500 map (Too much time and not enough satisfaction). I'll watch this topic for any updates on the matter, oh and, where is he vacationing at? And I really hope he comes back soon.

[Kristoffer O]

He's in Patala, the underworld of jewelled cities and the origin of all rivers and monsoon rains. In other words, India. I havn't heard from him, but I suspect he's getting wet

[Gandalf Parker]

TienIsCoolX said:
I just tried a map called "radiance 1.0" and it worked well, the load time was about 4 minutes. By the way, what constitutes a "megamap"? Is there a certain range of provinces that goes by to achieve megamap status?

On my Dom2minions pages
http://www.dom2minions.com/~dominion...andomMaps.html
I used this.....

TINY less than 5 each, or less than 85 total provinces. Best done as 45 land and 8 water.

SMALL 5 each, or 85 total provinces. Best done as 75 land and 10 water.

MEDIUM 10 each, or 170 total provinces. Best done as 150 land and 20 water.

LARGE 15 each, or 255 total provinces. Best done as 225 land and 30 water.

HUGE 20 each, or 340 total provinces. Best done as 300 land and 40 water.

EPIC 25 or more each, maybe to the maximum 500 total provinces. Something like 450 land and 50 water.

But now the Dom3 game defines small, medium, large as
SMALL 10 provinces per player
MEDIUM 15 provinces per player
LARGE 20 provinces per player

So I guess I need to redefine. Something like Epic 50/player (1000 province map) and Xtreme 60/player (1250 province map). MegaMap Ive usually used for maximum settings (1500 provinces)

Oh and about this line stripping thing, would it mean that around 30,000 lines must be taken out?

Maybe Ballbarian could add a "stripped" version. Knocking out blank lines, descriptions, helpful remarks such as what the unit is next to the unit number. And I have no idea if it matters but maybe try putting the text in unix format like the .map is instead of the bulkier dos version.