Lord of fertility

[Xietor]

It would not be overpowered, and would make sense, for the growth of any province he is in to increase slowly to 3.

I do not know if that was hard to code, but i cannot think of any reason a pretender named lord of fertility, and his description describes making things grow faster, does not get growth 3?

I have never been tempted to use him, and the change would not tempt me to abandon the Gorgon, but it should be done for thematic sense.

[MaxWilson]

That's odd. I assumed from reading his description that he *did* increase population in the province he's located in, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Bug or incorrect description?

-Max

[Gandalf Parker]

As I understand it Kristoffer puts in the descriptions, and Johan attaches the abilities later. That god showed up in a batch with many others. The second step might have gotten missed.

Sounds like a good catch to me.

[MaxWilson]

I'll write it up and put it in the bug thread, but not right now. If someone beats me to it, fine.

-Max

[Kristoffer O]

He gives supplies, not growth. We didn't want s pretender that had the possibility to have an ability that was against his own nature (dominion that is). A lord of fertility should take growth 2 or 3. If you do there is no need to give him another growth-increasing ability. It would also feel wrong to me if a player took a force-growing lord and combine it with a death-scale.

There is no such ability in the game, but I would prefer an ability thet doubled the effect of the growth/death scale in the province which the lord of fertility is currenly occupying.

For the time being he gives 50 supplies IIRC.

[Xietor]

I do not see 3 growth as overpowered, since it would only affect 1 province, most likely the capital. Or make it growth 1. shrug.

Supplies and making calves grow not really the same. Change his name to lord of plenty heh.

[DrPraetorious]

Well, at that rate, soldiers should reduce population growth wherever they were stationed because they were eating the excess food. It's the same issue as with civilization - in the real world, armies are built out of population, not lumber or ore or even gold.

So if we wanted to address inconsistencies like the one you describe, we'd start by redoing the entire unit production and maintanence system, not by reworking the special power of a seldom used God.

That said, the Lord of Plenty could produce X people per month. Since those people would grow exponentially if you had growth (and decay exponentially if you had death), you'd want to take the Growth scale.

OTOH, a lord of plenty who spread death and disease, sparing only those in his holy capital, would be pretty cool, I think. Pilgrims flock to his great city to grovel and beg for mercy from the generous one.

Likewise, the Soul Eater (or the Colour from the Spheres) consumes 500 people per month in whatever province his holiness resides in. He takes a growth scale so that his empire can survive his vile appetites?

[Nick_K]

I think the point is not that giving growth would be overpowered but that it would be unthematic for a god with death-scale. If you want the lord of fertility to encourage growth then you should give him the growth scale when you select your dominion

[Gandalf Parker]

It could be overpowering. Ive seen posts by some veterans that say that in certain game setups, taking growth becomes a no-brainer. So a pretender who also boosts growth cant b e considered lightly.

[Xietor]

yeah,

you take growth Gandalf, then when my armies capture your capital, i will have that many more worshipers for my pretender