obat53 Switzerland

[Pats]

I have modified obat53 (swiss army) with many changes.
Tried to touch the original not to much (except some better or realer names for them) but added lots of real units, possible units and some "unreal" or future units. Also added them to the formations.
Any interest?

Here a short list what I changed:
-Several names e.g. AMX-13 is better known as Pz 51
-G13 Hetzer is just known as G13 and as I know the swiss version didn't have a MG; but not so sure here, so I left the original in the place and added a swiss version.
-added some 30/40 tanks for the early stage of the game (Renault M17 and PzW34 Vickers)
-added the original german/tchechish Version PzKpfw 38(t)(as far I know they were also in use, only some were changed with the swiss 24mm Gun)
-correctet the version names (55a into 55, 55 into 55/60, 55/60 into 55/60 AA2 and so on)
-Pz 68 and 61; added Prototyp (Pz58)and some other version numbers (Pz61 AA7/8, Pz68/75 AA3 und AA4, Pz68 AA5; the old Pz68AA3 and AA4 stayed as they represent the refited Pz68 with the smaller turret! The Pz68/75 actually had a bigger turret but the same version no. AA3 and AA4)
-Name change Leopard tank into Pz87 LEO -> it's the 2A4 Version; the newer Version is called Pz87 LEO WE (=Werterhaltung)
-Name change of the SP Guns, APC's and so on (e.g. 10.6cmPAK58Jeep, Spz2000(CV9030), TransportPz T16, PAL BB65 Hafl.)
-AT Guns / Inf AT (10.6 cm PAK 58, 20mm TB Solo Tm, 8.3cm RackR 50, PAL BB65 Bantam etc.)
-Jaegers -> Fuesilier!
-Engineers -> Genietruppen
-Sniper -> Scharfschuetze
-Grenadier -> PzGrenadier (and added Fallschirmgrenadier, Gebirgsgrenadier and Gebirgsinfanterie)
-added "new" Commando tanks (FO) Pz87 is used as it, also KdoRadSPz 93/99 and Kdo Pz 2000 (also Kdo Piranha 6x6 sooner or later)
-SP Artillery (mod. M109!) is called Panzer Haubitze 88 (PzHb88) with diferent Versions. Added /99 and /01 with modern Ammo.
-added some Trucks (e.g. Duro)
-added Dauphin EuroC and some Pilatus Aircrafts
-BISON! web page[/url] http://www.ruag.com/ruag/juice?pageID=87631
-and more...

edit:
New attachement; formation names translated...

[cbreedon]

yes. I'll check it out

[Pats]

As I can see there are some downloads. So please post your comments here!

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I added a new version...

[cbreedon]

What did you update? I like your effort. I had modified my obat originally to add airborne as well.

I haven't had time to play a game with it yet but I have looked over the first version that you did.

I will try it out this weekend.

[RecruitMonty]

I checked through your OOB, Not bad at all! I will download your update and have a look through that one too.

[Pats]

Didn't change much, but when I played I found some "bugs" (like wrong dates for some units or spelling faults etc.)

Added a few more units (like a special force "A Aufkl Det 10" similar to the British SEALS and the "Grenadier A XXI"; there are no more diferent Grenadiere in the "Armee XXI")

[RecruitMonty]

Thats good to hear. Hope you fix those bugs alright. When will you post up the new OOB?

[Pats]

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[Pats]

I modified the newest version (from patch 3.0).
Here is a complete List:
Number / name / better designation / date / description
001 **Switzerland** Flag is Square
002 Pz 51 Pz 51 (AMX-13) better LBM 7099
003 Pz 55a Pz 55 no 55a known, better LBM 8012, Centurion ~Mk3
004 Pz 55 Pz 55/60 60-82 1st refit, better LBM 8012, Centurion ~Mk5
005 Pz 57 Pz 57/60 61-82 1st refit, Centurion ~Mk7
006 Pz 55/60 Pz 55/60 AA2 83-92 2nd refit, was actually longer in service then Pz 57/60 AA2
007 Pz 57/60 Pz 57/60 AA2 83-90 2nd refit
008 Pz 61 63-82
009 Pz 61 Pz 61 AA9 83-85 last version of Pz 61
012 Pz 68 AA2 77-82 through the earlier date poss. still Weapon 90 (105mm L7 UK73) in use
013 Pz 68 AA3 was at least the same as Unit 006/007 -> Vision 30, Fire control was even better -> 20
014 Pz 68 AA4 again Fire control would be better then 013 -> 25
016 Pz 68/88 89-104 Had the same equipment as the earlier LEO (unit 018), so vision and fire control 40
018 Pz 87 H1 Pz 87 LEO (2A4) 87-95 no H1 known, 1st refit in 96 (minor see unit 875), total of 42 rounds not 40, newer MGs -> MG87 and MG71
019 Pz Haubitze M66 Pz Hb 66 no M
020 Pz Hpze M66/74 Pz Hb 66/74 no Hpze, no M, had already weapon 114 (155mm M185 FH), better LBM 12041
021 Pz Haubitze M74 Pz Hb 74 + 79 2nd lot in 79 (same as 74 but named 79)
022 Pz Haubitze M88 Pz Hb 79/88
023 Mw Pz 64 64-79 newer versions
024 Pz Hpze M88/95 PzHb 88/95 KW I 95-120 first of three refits (KAWEST, 99 and 101), manly minor change -> intelligent ammunition
025 Pz 39 Pz (LTH) Why is weapon slot 3 free?
026 Pz 87 H2 Pz 87 LEO WE 07 107-120 this ('07) and '08 years refit! poss FT HEAT armor to high -> change down to 150, new MGs/gun/ammo as well
027 Pz 87 H2 Pz 87 LEO WE 01 101-120 refit was delayed, poss FT HEAT armor to high -> change down to 130, new MGs
030 106mm RCL Jeep 10.6cmPAK58Jeep
031 106mm RCL Jeep 10.6cmPAK80Jeep
032 Bantam Truck PAL BB65 Hafl.
033 Piranha-AT 6x6 TOW Piranha PJ (PJ is for Panzerjaeger -> to long here), date is poss. wrong too, role as SP ATGM has changed to SCOUT already
034 Universal T16 TransportPz T16
035 SchutzenPz 63 SPz 63 Schutzen -> Schuetzen!
036 Schutz. Pz 63/73 SPz 63/73
037 Schutz. Pz 63/89 SPz 63/89 89-110 will be soon replaced completely
039 Staghound Staghound was actualy NEVER in service used only as target for training
041 SchutzenPz 2000 Spz2000(CV9030) Schutzen -> Schuetzen
046 Field Car Gelaendewagen
050 106mm Recoiless 10.6cm PAK 80
051 Field Car Gelaendewagen
059 Piranha 8x8 RadSpz Piranha
060 Puch Haflinger Puch Haflinger 60-98 there might be one or two still in use
061 Pinzgauer 4x4 69-104 replaced by Duro
062 Pinzgauer 6x6 69-102 replaced by Duro
063 Light Truck Carry 113, otherwise no carrier for Inf
064 ATR Team 20mm TB Solo Tm TB is for Tankbuechse
067 M50 Team 8.3cm RackR 50
068 M58 Team 8.3cm RackR 58
069 M80 Team 8.3cm RackR 80
070 Pzfaust3 Team PzFaust 3 Tm Capital F
071 106mm Recoiless 10.6cm PAK 58
072 Bantam Team PAL BB65 Bantam
073 Dragon Team PAL BB77 Dragon
074 Dragon II Team PAL BB77 DrII
075 Dragon II Team PAL BB77 DrII90
076 2x60mm Mortars 2x60mm Moerser
077 2x81mm Mortars 2x81mm Moerser
078 2x81mm Mortars 2x81mm Moerser
079 2x120mm Mortars 2x120mm Moerser
080 2x120mm Mortars 2x120mm Moerser
081 2x120mm Mortars 2x120mm Moerser
082 20mm AA-Gun 44 20mm Flab 44 Flab -> Flugabwehr
083 20mm AA-Gun 57 20mm Flab 57
084 20mm AA-Gun 54 20mm Flab 54
085 34mm AA-Gun 38 34mm Flab 38
086 35mm AA-Gun 63 34mm Flab 63
087 35mm AA-Gun 90 34mm Flab 90 weapon slot 2 -> Stgw 90
088 35mm Radar AAA Flab 75 Radar
089 35mm Radar AAA Flab 75/95 Rad.
097 Fuesilier Fuesilier 11
098 Fusiliers Fuesilier 11 u -> ue, no s for plural / Index 11 -> Rifle
099 Fusiliers Fuesilier 31
100 Fusiliers Fuesilier 31
101 Fusiliers Fuesilier 57
102 Fusiliers Fuesilier 57
103 Fusiliers Fuesilier 57
104 Fusiliers Fuesilier 90
105 Fusiliers Fuesilier 90
107 Engineers Genietruppe 31
108 Engineers Genietruppe 57
109 Engineers Genietruppe 90 also PzSap -> Panzer Sappeur
110 7.5mm M51 MMGs 7.5mm M51 / 57
111 7.5mm M51 MMGs 7.5mm M51 / 90
112 Sniper Scharfschuetze
113 Sniper Scharfschuetze
114 Sniper Scharfschuetze
115 Sniper Scharfschuetze
116 Sniper Scharfschuetze
117 Sniper Scharfschuetze
118 Sniper Scharfschuetze
119 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 31 no s for plural / Index 31 -> Rifle
120 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 31
121 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 31
122 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 57
123 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 57
124 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 57
125 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 90
126 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 90
127 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 90+
128 PzGrenadiers PzGrenadier 90+
129 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 31 Index 31 -> Rifle
130 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 31
131 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 31
132 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 57
133 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 57
134 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 57
135 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 90
136 Bicycle Section Radfahrer 90
140 Super Puma better LBM 7093 and Icon 914
147 Hunter Mk 58 Speed is 1 -> 10
150 EFW Mirage III 66-102
153 EFW Tiger II 82-110 not replaced yet
154 FAF Hawk *FAF Hawk 90-105 Was in service only as training aircraft
155 FAF Hawk *FAF Hawk 90-105 Was in service only as training aircraft
161 EFW Mirage III 93-105 last lot of Mirage gone
162 12.7mm HMG 12.7mm HMG / 57
163 12.7mm HMG 12.7mm HMG / 90
165 Dragon 98 Team PAL BB77 DrII98
166 Dragon 2000 Tm PAL BB77 DrII00 104-120 not 'til 97
168 PAH-2 Tiger UHT *PAH-2 Tiger poss. but I dont think so
169 PAH-2 Tiger UHT *PAH-2 Tiger poss. but I dont think so
173 2x81mm Mortars 2x81mm Moerser
174 2x120mm Mortars 2x120mm Moerser
175 2x60mm Mortars 2x60mm Moerser
179 47mm AT-Gun 4.7cm PAK 41
180 90mm AT-Gun 50 9cm PAK 50
181 90mm AT-Gun 57 9cm PAK 57
182 90mm AT-Gun 50 9cm PAK 50/80
183 90mm AT-Gun 57 9cm PAK 57/80
184 2x120mm Mortars 2x120mm Moerser
188 Scout Sec Aufklaerer 31
189 Scout Sec Aufklaerer 57
190 Scout Sec Aufklaerer 57
191 Scout Sec Aufklaerer 90
192 Scout Sec Aufklaerer 90
210 KommandoPz 63 Kdo Pz 63
211 Kdo Pz 63/73 Weapon Slot 1 -> no 20mm cannon only 12.7mm MG (Weapon 16)
212 Kdo Pz 63/73 Kdo Pz 63/89 90-106 Weapon Slot 1 -> no 20mm cannon only 12.7mm MG (Weapon 16)
213 Kdo Pz 63/73 Kdo Pz 63/97 Weapon Slot 1 -> no 20mm cannon only NEW 12.7mm MG (Weapon 228)
214 Alouette III AT *Alouette III Might be poss. If it would have been necessary
215 Dauphin EuroC EuroCopter 135 108-120 LBM 14270, Vision 40
216 Dauphin MG EuroCopter 635 108-120 EW 3, Vision 50 etc.
217 Alouette III
218 Alouette III MG Super Puma TH89 89-120 wrong Helo
219 Super Puma MG Super Puma WE 107-120 only one LMG
220 Spotter Plane
221 Dauphin AT *EC 635 AT 110-120 Might be poss. If it will be necessary
222 Puma AT *Cougar AT 110-120 Might be poss. If it will be necessary
223 Alouette III AT *Alouette III Might be poss. If it would have been necessary
224 Alouette III AT *Alouette III Might be poss. If it would have been necessary
225 M113 DIRA MLRS
228 GeniePanzer 63 63-88
253 FO Team SchiessKdt 31
254 FO Team SchiessKdt 57
255 FO Team SchiessKdt 90
256 FO Team SchiessKdt 90
257 FO Team SchiessKdt 90
258 FO Team SchiessKdt 90
259 FO Car SchiessKdt GelW
265 7.5mm M51 AAMG 7.5mm MG51 Flab
300 G-13 G-13 - Pz 38(t)
311 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 57
312 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 57
313 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 57
314 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 57
315 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 90
316 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 90
317 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 90
318 Paratroops Fallsch-Gren 90
596 Ammo Container Mun. Container
597 Ammo Wagon Munitionswagen
598 Wagon Pferdewagen
599 Pack Mules Packesel
601 **new rael**
603 Kdo Pz 87 LEO 2 Tank in use as FO Vehicle
604 Kdo RadSpez93/99 Light armored FO Vehicle for light troops
605 Kdo Pz 2000 new APC -> new FO Vehicle
606 Kdo Piranha 6x6 ATGM Vehicle without TOW-Tower in a new role
607 PzHb 88/95 KW-2 refit in 99
608 PzHb 88/95 KW-3 new ammo in 2001
609 3x PzHb 88/95-2
610 3x PzHb 88/95-3
612 Bucher Duro THE light truck now
613 Unimog
614 Saurer 6DM instead of generic Medium Truck
615 Saurer 8DM instead of generic Heavy Truck
616 Saurer 10DM instead of generic (Very) Heavy Truck
619 RANGER UAV THE unmaned FO Aircraft, with RADAR
620 PC-6 B2 FO Aircraft
621 PC-7 FO Aircraft
622 PC-9 FO Aircraft
623 ADS 95 earlier Version of UAV Ranger
624 PC-6 B2 THE transport Aircraft for Paratroops
626 BISON THE mountain keep with a big gun
627 2x BISON** always comes in pairs
628 Antitank Bunker just an other bunker
630 Kdo Pinz 4x4 unarmed FO Vehicle
631 Kdo Puch 4x4 unarmed FO Vehicle
632 Kdo Duro 4x4 unarmed FO Vehicle
633 Kdo Duro 4x4 unarmed FO Vehicle
634 Entp Pz 65/88 replaced GeniePanzer 63 (unit 228)
635 Mirm Pz 63/00 Mine clearing tank, based on a M113
636 BergePz Bueffel Engineer tank, based on LEO 2
637 Kran Pz 63 Engineer tank, based on a M113
638 Entp Pz 65 Engineer tank, poss. it is unit 228
639 KODIAK (AEV3) Engineer tank, based on LEO 2
640 KODIAK (AEV3) Mine clearing tank, based on LEO 2
642 Condor 650 / 31 Motorcycle with sidecar
643 Condor 650 / 57 Motorcycle with sidecar
644 Condor 350 / 57 Motorcycle
645 Condor 350 / 90 Motorcycle, I drove it at my service!
646 BMW 650 F / 90 Motorcycle, I drove it at my service!
647 BMW 650 F / 90+ Motorcycle
648 Pontoniere 31 Marine Engineers
649 Pontoniere 31 Marine Engineers
650 Pontoniere 57 Marine Engineers
651 Pontoniere 57 Marine Engineers
652 Pontoniere 90 Marine Engineers
653 Holzboot Wooden boat, not real good ICON for it
654 Pononierboot A bit mor stable boat, not real good ICON for it
655 Sturmboot generic boat, not real good ICON for it
656 Patroullienboot armed patrol boat, ot real good ICON for it
657 Patroullienboot armed patrol boat, ot real good ICON for it
658 Patroullienboot armed patrol boat, ot real good ICON for it
659 Sandbag MG / 31
660 Sandbag MG / 57
661 Sandbag MG / 57
662 Sandbag MG / 90
663 Sandbag MG / 90
664 Sandbag MG / 11
666 Geb. Inf. 31 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
667 Geb. Inf. 31 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
668 Geb. Inf. 57 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
669 Geb. Inf. 57 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
670 Geb. Inf. 90 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
671 Geb. Inf. 90 Ski troops (Gebirgsinfanterie)
673 Genietruppe 31 with rifle grenades
674 Genietruppe 57 with rifle grenades
676 Geb. Gren. 31 Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
677 Geb. Gren. 31 Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
678 Geb. Gren. 57 Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
679 Geb. Gren. 57 Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
680 Geb. Gren. 90 Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
681 Geb. Gren. 90+ Heavy Ski troops (Gebirgsgrenadiere)
683 PzFaust 3 T Tm missing unit
684 PzFaust 3 IT Tm missing unit
688 4.7cm PAK 41 Weapon Slot 2 different
689 9cm PAK 50 Weapon Slot 2 different
690 9cm PAK 57 Weapon Slot 2 different
691 24mm TB 41 Tm 24mm version
692 4.7cm IK 35/41 IK -> Infanteriekanone
694 Sch.sch.SIG550 Stgw90 with Sniper targeting system
696 Fuesilier 57 with rifle grenades
697 PzGrenadier 57 with rifle grenades
698 Radfahrer 57 with rifle grenades
699 Aufklaerer 57 with rifle grenades
700 Fuesilier 90+ with PzFaust 3T DC
701 Radfahrer 90+ with PzFaust 3T DC
702 Aufklaerer 90 with rifle grenades
704 A Aufkl Det 10 THE elit unit (Commando scouts, poss. ranger)
705 Gren. A XXI PAL THE new Grenadier (Commandos) with ATGM-Weapon
706 Grenadier A XXI THE new Grenadier (Commandos)
707 Grenadier A XXI THE new Grenadier (Commandos)
710 Funk Puch 4x4 instead of generic Scout vehicle
711 Funk Jeep instead of generic Scout vehicle
713 Jeep Utility vehicle
714 Puck 4x4 Utility vehicle
720 3x60mm Moerser tripple Mortars
721 3x60mm Moerser tripple Mortars
722 3x81mm Moerser tripple Mortars
723 3x81mm Moerser tripple Mortars
724 3x81mm Moerser tripple Mortars
725 3x120mm Moerser tripple Mortars
726 3x120mm Moerser tripple Mortars
727 3x120mm Moerser tripple Mortars
728 3x120mm Moerser tripple Mortars
729 3x120mm Moerser tripple Mortars
731 4xM50 FH 155mm Howitzer come in packs of four
732 4xM-35 105mm Howitzer come in packs of four
733 4xM-46 105mm Howitzer come in packs of four
734 4xM-42 155mm Howitzer come in packs of four
735 4xPz Hb 66 Artillery come in pack of four
736 4xPz Hb 74-88 Artillery come in pack of four
737 4xPz Hb 88/95 Artillery come in pack of four
738 4xPz Hb 88/95-3 Artillery come in pack of four
863 Rpe Trsw 68 poss. It is unit 236
865 Personenwagen Utility vehicle
866 M37 Dodge 4x4 Utility vehicle
868 PC-21 the new OP Aircraft and trainer
869 Polizei Police
870 Polizei Police
871 Polizei Police
872 Piranha 6x6 Piranha 6x6 without TOW used as armoured car
873 TOW Piranha PJ+ EW 3 (VIRSS 1 shot) if used as ATGM
875 Pz 87 LEO (A4+) the same as unit 018 but with refited gun / new ammo
876 Pz 87 LEO WE+07 the same as unit 026 but with VIRSS 1 shot
877 Pz 87 LEO WE+10 THE newst refit of LEO 2 is planed (~A6) with VIRSS
879 RadSPzPiranha+ the same as unit 059 but with VIRSS 2 shots
880 RadSPzPiranhaAC the same as unit 879 but with 20mm cannon (~ASLAV)
882 Mw Pz 64/74 SP Mortar with newer Mortar then unit 023
883 Mw Pz 64/87 SP Mortar with newer Mortar then unit 882
884 Mw Pz 64/91 BH SP Mortar with newer Mortar then unit 883 and refited M113 base
886 Flab Pz 68 a few were built and in use for about six years
888 Trial Truppe 11 cavalry
890 ITOW Team TOW is in use since 1986
891 TOW 2 Team
893 MOWAG Eagle IV+ in use as APC with VIRSS 2 shots
894 MOWAG Eagle IV in use as APC
896 RadSPz Piranha in use as armoured car
897 MOWAG Eagle in use as armoured car
899 TOW Piranha AU Piranha 6x6 used as Scout vehicle, TOW as self defense weapon
901 Bunker Heavy fortifications - Mountain cavern
902 Pz Shelter Heavy fortifications - Mountain cavern
904 Festung 31 Heavy fortifications - Mountain cavern
905 Festung 57 Heavy fortifications - Mountain cavern
906 Festung 90 Heavy fortifications - Mountain cavern
907 Bloodhound SAM still in use after refit until 1999
908 Rapier SAM Mk2 improved Rapier since 2004
909 Tracked Rapier+ improved tracked Rapier at 2014
911 Crew 90 Never leave your personal weapon
912 Crew SMG Never leave your personal weapon
914 Pz 68 AA5 90-99 latest version of Pz 68
915 Pz 68/75 (AA4) 83-95 bigger turret then Pz 68 AA4
916 Pz 68/75 (AA3) 79-93 bigger turret then Pz 68 AA3
917 Pz 61 AA7/8 76-82 2nd last version of Pz 61
918 Pz 58 (61) 58-64 prototype of Pz 61, several built and in use for ca. 6 years
919 G-13 - CH vers. G-16 without MG
920 PzKpfw 38(t) original from Pz 39 (unit25), in use before rebuilt
921 Renault M17 FT 46-48 early tank
922 PzW 34 VICKERS 46-50 early tank
924 Vickers HMG 46-56 Haevy MG Team
926 Patroullie 31 Marines, patrol boat crew
927 Patroullie 57 Marines, patrol boat crew
928 Patroullie 57 Marines, patrol boat crew
929 Patroullie 90 Marines, patrol boat crew
931 KC 57 guards squad / military police
932 KC 57 guards squad / military police
933 KC 90 guards squad / military police
934 Sappeur 11 commando engineers / demolition squad
935 Sappeur 31 commando engineers / demolition squad
936 Sappeur 57 commando engineers / demolition squad
937 Sappeur 90 commando engineers / demolition squad
938 Sappeur RL 96 commando engineers / demolition squad
939 PzArtillerieK68 73-85 105mm artillery cannon
941 LPz2000 (CV90) 110-120 possible light tank based on CV90 with short 120mm gun
943 MOWAG Eagle V possible next generation scout vehicle
944 MOWAG Eagle V possible next generation armoured car
946 JAS39 Gripen 114-120 possible for replacing Tiger II
947 Eurofighter 114-120 possible for replacing Tiger II
948 Eurofighter 114-120 possible for replacing Tiger II
949 Rafale Air 114-120 possible for replacing Tiger II
950 F/A-18F Hornet 114-120 possible for replacing Tiger II
952 Bulldozer
955 *unreal past*
957 2x 81mm LLRS M113 with long range rocket launcher
959 PC-7 (FB) PC-7 as Fighter-Bomber
960 PC-7 (LB) PC-7 as Level Bomber
962 Staghound 60 fills gap
963 Pz 57 / 88 Centurion modern
964 Pz 57 / 120mm Centurion modern
970 *unreal future*
972 RadSPz TOW 8x8 ultimate heavy APC
973 TOW Piranha 8x8 why not 8x8 instaed of 6x6
975 Pz 68 ERA what if�
976 Pz 87 LEO ERA what if�

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