OT: Enterprise...What did you think? - Page 4

Dracus · #31 September 29th, 2001, 01:18 AM

It does get confusing:
at warp 1 a ship could travel from the sun to earth in about 8 seconds.
At Enterpise I think they said they could go to Jupiter and back in 6 minutes but they did not state at what speed.
I am trying to work out the math and will post more later.

AJC · #32 September 29th, 2001, 01:23 AM

I thought it was the best of the more recent trek series. I liked the Ship , special effects, back ground sets, and the attitudes reflected in the crew, they werent all running around blessing the galaxy with their presence and how wonderful the federation was.
Two things stood out as mistakes for me- when they grappled the fighter - the guy ejected and the hatch popped off - so they wouldnt have been able to use the fighter without being able to replace the hatch.
The scene where they are infected with a alien spore - I didnt mind lookin at the vulcan.. but what they did was inconsistant with what would have to happen to disinfect themselves. It was really a character building scene and I got the impression - the two characters would eventually hit it off.

As to how fast they were moving ; didnt Capt Archer say to the crew it would take a week or so to get used to flying at 30,000 kilometers per second, just before they lost all power?

All in all I thought it was entertaining and I liked it alot. I will be watching with interest!

[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 29 September 2001).]

Kadste · #33 September 29th, 2001, 01:28 AM

Check out this link. It says that that warp 5 is 214 times the speed of light.
http://www.netmoon.com/startrek/warp1/warp.htm

How about warp 9.9999 equals 199,516 times the speed of light.

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Atrocities · #34 September 29th, 2001, 02:10 AM

What did I think of Enterprise? Well in a word, awsome. I was really surprised at the attention to detail, and the overall effect that they were able to pull off.

I truly look forward to seening more of this show.

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Suicide Junkie · #35 September 29th, 2001, 02:22 AM

quote:
As to how fast they were moving ; didnt Capt Archer say to the crew it would take a week or so to get used to flying at 30,000 kilometers per second, just before they lost all power?

Lightspeed is 300,000 KM/s.
Maybe he said 30 million KM/s = 100c

Dracus · #36 September 29th, 2001, 04:37 PM

Note:
Warp 5 on pre-2287 scale....

Dracus · #37 September 29th, 2001, 04:51 PM

while these might not be totally to spec
here is a web site with some interesting specs http://home.att.net/~enterprise1701d/ste/tech.html

Lerchey · #38 September 29th, 2001, 10:47 PM

I will admit to liking Enterprise. And I'll likely continue to watch it. While most folks have fired off opinions about things that were ... bothersome, like the "shower scene", I had a more general problem. And in fact, it's a problem that EVERY Star Trek series has shared... temporal linear inconsistancy.

The time lines just NEVER work. Phased pistols in use while the original pilot for the 1701 Enterprise crew had lasers (already mentioned); Klingons in the "modern" form (bumpy headed barbarian warriors with strong senses of honor) when in ToS they were... well, clearly different. And if explained as the Klingons being "modified" so that the humans would be more trusting, well... as usual, the Star Trek historians completely forgot about the first Klingons they met. Give me a break.

And despite the fact that the ToS Enterprise was sent out on a 5 year mission to meet new races, that base/trading post they hit had dozens of races that never appear again.

Again, I liked it. And I'll watch it. But as with all Star Trek, you really need to not only suspend disbelief, you often have to add blinders and memory depleters as well.

General John

Suicide Junkie · #39 September 29th, 2001, 11:37 PM

quote:
at warp 1 a ship could travel from the sun to earth in about 8 seconds

I have to correct this one:
Earth is 8 light-MINUTES from the sun, not seconds.
Warp 1 is the speed of light. So the ship would take 8 minutes at warp 1.

8 seconds at warp one would take you only a few earth-moon lengths away.

Baal · #40 September 30th, 2001, 10:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Baal,

In fact, most of us COULD make a better show -- if we could do it OURSELVES. But a television show is always the product of a committee, and has to be because it's such a huge project. If you have any acquaintance with the folk-wisdom called "Murphy's Law" jokes you know what that does to the quality of the finished product, of course.

Anyway, we have every right to *****-whine-moan about the quality, or lack thereof, in our entertainment. They are trying to sell it to us. Like any other product, we need to consider its merits and deficiences so we can decide if it's worth "buying" with our time, or if we ought to do something else that would be more valuable. Finish our SE IV mods, for example.

And anyway, if you don't like to see whining about a tv show made with so much 'hard work' then you don't have to click on the thread and read it.

DISCLAIMER: This post is directed at one person. It is just an opinion anyway and it�s not as if anyone forced you to read it.

[This message has been edited by Baron Munchausen (edited 28 September 2001).]

**** you Baron. All you people who nit pick a TV show apart are a bunch of whiney *****es. Baron, I look forward to the piece of dog **** that you put together. I doubt you could even get started so maybe you should shut your damned mouth and let the people who do make the shows make the shows.

As was stated earlier. People will watch Star Trek even if you don't like it so maybe you should go find some other show to grind down to nothing. Maybe it's about time you people were content with the fact that someone out there made a new show in the ST universe instead of just *****ing like the Baron here. If I were in charge I would never have made Enterprise. I would have made a new series not attached to the ST universe so you people would have to maybe watch it for its content instead of hunting for technicalities.

Maybe you should take all the energy/effort you use to criticize what you quite obviously can not do yourself and build a 2500 foot tall building or something. In the end the building actually means something.

DISCLAIMER: This post is directed mostly at Baron Whateverhis****ingnameis but also at all you *****ing trekkies who would not know a good TV series if it rammed the Empire State Building up your tight little *******s.

(Note: I did not start by insulting you Baron. You insulted me first.)