Missing ship designs.

[nmikey]

I keep having a problem with missing ship/unit designs, specifically ones that have bigger weapon mounts. I will start a game with high racial points and technology, design a fleet and then save the race. The next time I start up an identical game all the designs with larger weapon mounts are gone, my weapon platforms, my bases, some of my ships. It is very frustrating. I have version 1.91 of SE IV gold. I installed (or tried to) the mods from the disk, but am having the problem with the original game, which I select from the SE4 launcher. Is it a bug, or am I doing something wrong? please help.

[Ed Kolis]

I've never personally saved designs with my .emp file, but I think what's happening is the game is hiding all the designs which you can't create with your current technology.

[Renegade 13]

I'd agree.

It's often prudent to NOT save your design files when you save your race, simply to avoid the problem you are now encountering. The game simply won't allow you to access designs that you don't have the tech (in this case, large enough ship sizes to give you access to the mounts) to create. Once you research enough though, those designs should become available.

[nmikey]

Its not a matter of insufficient tech. I start a game at high, which give me all tech, and its not all my ships that are missing, just the ones it seems that have larger weapons mounts. If I start a game with low tech then my remaining ship designs are still there they simply say insufficient tech.

[EaX]

Yes i think something similar happened to me, let me give you an example, i start a game with all tech. researched, then i save my empire with the designs after that i start another game (again with full tech) then when i load my empire some of my ships designs are gone. I've not yet figure out why but i think it has something to do with mounts.

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

Also, when leaving out the ship designs, you make your empire (more) compatible with certain mods, meaning that you can transfer the empire with the three descriptions (which I tend(ed) to fill with large batches of background information, I'm such a background junkie) to another mod without having invalidated designs.

Of course, you'd have to leave the race customization (i.e. traits & advanced traits) to a minimum level, as, for instance, a STM race with STM advanced traits would cause Adamant to choke. Also, some mods modify the maximum settings on the trait sliders, so you can't set Aggressiveness to more than 115% or 125% or so.

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[Raging Deadstar]

It's been a problem ever since I remember as well nmikey. I used to love playing High-tech games when i was after a different style game and everytime the same thing happened.

Haven't seen a fix for this yet.

[Renegade 13]

This probably is a bug that hasn't been addressed yet. Unfortunately.

[ToddT]

i saved ship designs once, the designs i could not build were grayed out or something the others just weren't there.

[nmikey]

Thanks for answering my question (and the welcome btw). Since it apparently can't be fixed I just designed ships with normal weapon mounts for saving purposes with names that indicate their intended weapons. Like Disabler 6mSA-6massiveShieldAccelerator, 3mTPC 3massiveTachyonProjectionCannon etc. Unfortunately I will still have to make custom build queues every game.