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September 3rd, 2005, 06:55 PM
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OT: Alternate Data Streams
For those who don't know Alternate Data Stream is a NTFS "feature" wich is really a security risk, a program can be executed and you may not realice that, check out these link....
http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...a_Streams.html
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September 6th, 2005, 03:56 AM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
GEEEZZZZ!!!
Nice of him to put in a "tutorial" for the would-be hacker... 
People are stupid. I'm embarrassed to be human.
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September 7th, 2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
Now I'd seen something similar, and I wonder if it was the same thing. I use a tiny, efficient, command-line defragmenter called DIRMS. When I ran it on my sister's Dell laptop, I saw dozens of the folder hidden thumbnail files (Gak, big win XP waste of space and resources) displayed like: Thumbs.db:encryptable
I wonder if it has anything to do with this? And why would Dell have to do something like this? This was before she was on the net, so I don't think it was malicious.
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September 8th, 2005, 02:07 AM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
Well you can always create a ADS and see if you get the same result with the program, if it does well it's pretty sure its a ADS, i think.
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September 8th, 2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
Thumbs.db? I'm pretty sure that's image thumbnails to be displayed in folders.
(Just my mildly informed opinion)
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September 8th, 2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
Apparently you were right Arkon, its a ADS, check this out
C: Enumerating detected ADS...
�������������������������������������������������� �
Location:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Pictures\Sample Pictures\Thumbs.db:encryptable
StreamName:encryptable
StreamID:BACKUP_ALTERNATE_DATA (4)
StreamAttributes:STREAM_NORMAL_ATTRIBUTE. (0)
DataSize:0 Bytes
NameSize:36 Bytes
Location:C:\Documents and Settings\All Users.WINDOWS\Documents\My Pictures\Sample Pictures\Thumbs.db:encryptable
StreamName:encryptable
StreamID:BACKUP_ALTERNATE_DATA (4)
StreamAttributes:STREAM_NORMAL_ATTRIBUTE. (0)
DataSize:0 Bytes
NameSize:36 Bytes
see the whole thing here http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/in...0&#entry158041
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We're the borg, lower your shields and surrender your ships, we will add your technological and biological distintiveness to our own your race will adapt to serve us, resistant is futile.
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September 8th, 2005, 08:09 PM
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Re: OT: Alternate Data Streams
Sometime when I'm at her computer, I'll have to try those sugestions mentioned there. But they don't really explain what happened before she went online to cause this sort of thing. Either Dell or M$ are up to some sort of shenanigans, who knows if its good or bad?
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