too powerfull orion

majama · #1 May 12th, 2005, 04:26 PM

hello,
i'm new in this game but im sure if Orion mercenary is the key to easy victory, he is too powerfull, it's bad thing, it make game sensless.

Please tell me how to eliminate him from game, is any mod or patch?

quantum_mechani · #2 May 12th, 2005, 04:42 PM

He is good, but there are many, many things that can kill him.
It would be possible to mod him to be weaker, but he is really not as great as all that.

majama · #3 May 12th, 2005, 04:53 PM

I hate Orion because with him always one buy = few new victories and lands. If computers buyed him first: I lost, if i buy: I win
if possible i will be happy turn him off

Saber Cherry · #4 May 12th, 2005, 04:54 PM

Orion is too cheap for his value - he should be, maybe, 150 or 200 gold. But he rarely plays an important role in a game, except maybe if you are playing against AIs set to Easy with independents at strength 3 on a small map.

You can mod Eternal Knights to make them weaker; the instructions are in the Modding Manual that you can get on the Shrapnel downloads page.

majama · #5 May 12th, 2005, 05:07 PM

thx Saber, i will read this manual and maybe something can do.
Have you ever seen game with no-orion on first place in hall of fame?

Boron · #6 May 12th, 2005, 05:25 PM

As soon as you have built your first SC orion will no longer be an issue

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Similiar with some REALLY powerful troops like F9W9 blessed Vans or massproduced devils.

Orion is really not an issue you will soon see. SCs maybe are though.

majama · #7 May 12th, 2005, 05:46 PM

SC? what does mean?

Boron · #8 May 12th, 2005, 05:51 PM

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majama said:
SC? what does mean?

Super combatant.

For starting try a VQ god with 2fire 2air 3earth and 1water as magic, script her to quickness, ironskin, fireshield , mistform and mirrorimage, then attack enemy archers.

This vq will reliably beat almost any indep armies and be tough for 200 troop ai armies also.

RibbonBlue · #9 May 12th, 2005, 06:33 PM

Whos Orion, ive never seen or this thing.

NTJedi · #10 May 12th, 2005, 06:39 PM

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majama said:
I hate Orion because with him always one buy = few new victories and lands. If computers buyed him first: I lost, if i buy: I win
if possible i will be happy turn him off

He's not the most powerful mercenary in my opinion. There's an air mage which comes with 30? slyphs! I guarantee that air mage would easily kill Orion and his men.

I wouldn't make any changes... my opinion.