Bug? Rule I am unaware of? Am I just stupid?

[Yvelina]

I was besieging a castle with a few units. I 'Astral traveled' a few troops and commanders in the province. The defenders sallied and my forces routed. It should have not been a big deal, as no one important was killed. Instead I had all of the teleported troops die with a 'no where to retreat' message. I lost a prophet, quite a few artifacts, etc... The strange thing is that the troops that had swam into the province, or that had been there before the attack retreated just fine.

Is this a bug (some troops dying, others retreating) or am I somehow not understanding what happened?

[archaeolept]

that does sound like buggy behaviour. the astral travelled troops were involved in the defense against the sally?

maybe send the turn file to illwinter.

[Boron]

archaeolept said:
that does sound like buggy behaviour. the astral travelled troops were involved in the defense against the sally?

maybe send the turn file to illwinter.

Yeah the astral travelled troops travel magically so they should be in the province before normal battles and participate in the battle too . If that wasn't the case it sounds really strange .
They didn't fight magically moved troops before like ghost riders or other magically moved in troops of your opponent ?

[The Panther]

No, none of that happened. Her pretender was there seiging before the battle, and it looks like he retreated normally because he does not show up as dead on the HOF now. I simply broke the seige with a bunch of mages and stuff and did nothing weird.

The air queen and prophet teleported in and died. What was totally weird was that in my battle replay, both of those guys died during the battle while the pretender and icythid lord did escape, which was the final actual result! But in the battle summary, it showed that no heroes had died and all four had escaped. It is almost like my battle replay was accurate and the summary was not, but I have never seen this before. I surely wish they had died because I would have liked to find some of those unique artifacts. But they are now lost, about 200 gems worth of artifacts all together.

Also, she did have some adjacently owned provinces both before and after the battle.

I am begining to not like this latest patch at all with the bogus replays.

[tinkthank]

I do not believe this is due to the latest patch. I have had similar events happen in 2.12 and earlier. I had sent similar saves in to Illwinter, and was told that that was odd behavior indeed, but that they were unable to pinpoint its source. Perhaps if you send the appropriate files, they will be able to learn more? It often involves teleportation, but not always. I have had a GoH'ed Vastness just ... disappear, and similar stuff.

[Yvelina]

I have the client side files, but I am sure the server side files are gone... Is it worth sending what I have to Illwinder?

My boyfriend is trying to reproduce the bug, with no luck so far. He thinks it involves the Gateway stone, which by the way costs me nothing like 160 gems, Panther, given that I have the construction site, the Forge of ancients global, and the Forge Lord's hammer :-)

Now I guess that I will finally learn WHAT heroes come back as.

[The Panther]

I admit that I have never seen that gateway stone before. I didn't even know it existed, and it is not in the manual.

I learn something new every day!

I am still wondering if the strange retreat behavior had anything to do with the fact that both heroes died in my battle replay. Is the ichytid lord still alive or did he die too? My replay showed him and the pretender escaping along with a handful of slyphs. All draconious died, which matched the battle report.

Also, one other thing. Did all four heores escape alive in your battle replay, Yvelina?

[Arryn]

The Panther said:
I admit that I have never seen that gateway stone before. I didn't even know it existed, and it is not in the manual.

I call your attention to item 5.52 on page 61 of the manual: Gate Stone.

[The Panther]

Well, don't that beat all. My manual does not have a page 61. The highest artifact on my list is 5.49, the magic lamp.

I wonder what else I am missing...

[Arryn]

You're missing the back side of page 61 as well (pg 62). Artifacts go through 5.65.

You're missing such goodies as:

5.52 Gate Stone
5.53 Alchemist's Stone
5.54 Orb of Atlantis
5.60 The Black Book of Secrets

and drumroll please ...

5.63 The Chalice