OMG: The Revenge of the Sith - Page 4

Raging Deadstar · #31 July 27th, 2004, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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I really don't think 20 or 30 shrapnellers would be enough. General Dogscoff Sir

Pah! Where's your backbone, soldier? One proud Shrapneller is worth a hundred snivelling SW sciffies. (*) This will be a cake walk. Now stand up straight, get your hair cut, get out there and don't come back until you've got George Lucas himself skewered on the end of that red-hot poker cannon.

* Footnote - except where the Shrapneller also happens to be a SW sciffy. In that case the maths gets a little complicated, but on average it works out at around 4.6 sciffies per Klingon^3.

Sir Yes Sir!

Permission to break out the curiously celtic named mutated giant sea monsters you seem to breed Sir and open up a cantina there!

Atrocities · #32 July 27th, 2004, 05:46 PM

Its a noble idea. However as a moderator (shaking head yes) I cannot condone such behavior.

Raging Deadstar · #33 July 27th, 2004, 06:03 PM

It's ok, i personally don't think any or many of us could bare to lower ourselves to that level. It's one of the few things that worry me about this forum.

SEV becomes more succesful than SEIV ever was (a challenge to say the least) and becomes more popular. This is great for shrapnel and Malfador but what will become of this forum? The more popular something becomes the more people will join communities on it, unfortuantly the more people the bigger chance of those who thankfully we don't see much of round here.

It's a selfish thing i guess, this community is my favourite and i have many friends from here and it's place where we can all discuss and be civillised while helping. Something from my brief viewing of the star wars forum a few months back was obviously lacking there. I hope for many happy years on this forum. Also we don't want a retaliation invasion of star wars "sciffies".

Anyway, we can taunt them from afar

Suicide Junkie · #34 July 27th, 2004, 08:17 PM

Newcomers to this forum tend to be a bit rough, but from what I've seen, it dosen't take long before they rise to the level we're all used to.

I expect most of us will be around for SEV, and as the old guard, we can lead by example.

The SE5 players will want to fit in, but the SW people won't care.
There is no point in drawing actively hostile people here...

narf poit chez BOOM · #35 July 27th, 2004, 09:28 PM

Have to agree with SJ. A board war would just end badly.

Atrocities · #36 July 27th, 2004, 09:39 PM

I agree, just best to keep away from the kiddies at Star Wars Land. They will fade in time as the Last movie goes down in flames like the Last two have.

gregebowman · #37 July 27th, 2004, 10:43 PM

Wish I could have put in my 2 cents earlier, but this is the first time I've been on since sometime Last week. As far the SW3 title, it could have been worse. Yes, it is reminiscient of SW6's title, but IIRC, GL changed the name to trick those who were trying to make a profit from the movie long before it came out. Such things like posters and other stuff were already coming out before the movie was released with the original title. He changed it a few months before the movie was to come out to thwart them.

I loved the original trilogy. I was 14 in May of 77 (has it been that long?), and remember that film fondly. I liked what Lucas did in 97 when he remade them, except for one thing. He should have kept the scene where Han Solo shot Greedo. Adding that part where Greedo's hand comes out with a bLaster still doesn't sit with me. I know since ROTJ he's dumbed down the storylines to cater to children or the really geeky nerds, but I wish he would have left that particular scene alone in the special edition.

As far as TPM and AOTC, I was really disappointed. Especially in TMP. Jar Jar was like fingernails going down a chalkboard to me. Since we didn't really have the droids throughout the whole movie to give us comic relief, he had to come up with Jar Jar. Maybe the idea behind Jar Jar was right, but the way he created his personality and wrote his lines was horrific. I didn't particular care for the way Anakin's origin was presented either. They talk about the Force being this all surround energy force that those with the right genes can use to influence things. But saying the Force actually created Anakin to bring balance to the force was nothing but horse-puckey. That's saying the Force was a sentient entity who is willing to affect things to it's own ideas. GL could have made it where Anakin's father was a passing Jedi who either died or kept on going, instead of a miraculous conception.

As far as AOTC, I liked it a whole lot better than TPM. Unfortunately, GL can't write a love scene to save his life. I thought all of the scenes with Anakin and Padme were forced, and didn't see how Padme could fall in love with Anakin in such a short time. They only knew each other for a few days or weeks in TPM, when she was 14 and he was 8 or 9. Then they meet again 10 years later only because Obi-Wan and Anakin happen to be on Coruscant at the same time that Padme was. That seemed too coincidental to me. If he couldn't come up with a decent way for them to fall in love, he should have gotten someone else to write those scenes. Especially after he admitted to wiping out a whole Tusken Raider village, children and all. At least the Last 45 minutes or so made up for the rest of the movie. I just wish Jango Fett had survived. He was too cool of a character to be wasted away like that.

As far as my thoughts on SW3, I don't know. I hope he can fit all of the known Star Wars facts in a 2 1/2 hour movie: Anakin going to the Dark Side, the fight with Obi-Wan resulting in him falling into a lava pit, thus forcing him to wear the respirator for the rest of his life. I wander if they will show it was Anakin's idea or Palpatine's (spoiler for those who don't know who the Emperor really was) to make that part of his persona, thus creating Darth Vader. Also, Chewbacca is going to be in this film. I don't know what part he will have in the saga at that point, but I'm hoping they show a young Han Solo rescuing him from slavery, thus making Han a disgraced Imperial officer. I'd also love to see the sabacc game in which Han won the Millenium Falco from Lando. Also, there surely will show the twins being born and split up, with Obi-Wan obviously being sent to keep an eye out for Luke. What little we know of Padme, she does survive for awhile, enough for Leia to remember her. I wander what her final fate was? If anyone knows from whatever website you may visit, keep it to yourself. I'll wait to find out for myself next May.

dogscoff · #38 July 28th, 2004, 09:40 AM

Agree with everything GB just said. He's also just reminded me of something:

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we didn't really have the droids throughout the whole movie

What the hell were R2D2 and C2PO doing in the first film? Don't you think they might have mentioned the fact that they were *built* by Vader at some point in the Last 3? Or if they didn't know Vader=Anakin, they might have at least commented on the fact that their original owner was a skywalker like Luke?

It seems clear to me that when epsIV-VI were made, the droids were not intended to be part of eps I-III. However they were desperately crowbarred into the plot at the Last minute for cynical Hollywood reasons. What, did GL think we couldn't handle a Star Wars film without any familiar characters?

Just another example (like Jar Jar) of GL underestimating and so patronising his audience.

PvK · #39 July 28th, 2004, 04:17 PM

Ya, I agree with Greg's post too, mostly, but I'm curious about the Greedo part:

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
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I loved the original trilogy. I was 14 in May of 77 (has it been that long?), and remember that film fondly. I liked what Lucas did in 97 when he remade them, except for one thing. He should have kept the scene where Han Solo shot Greedo. Adding that part where Greedo's hand comes out with a bLaster still doesn't sit with me. I know since ROTJ he's dumbed down the storylines to cater to children or the really geeky nerds, but I wish he would have left that particular scene alone in the special edition.
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My memory was that he had levelled a bLaster at Han in the original film, too. Han just shot him under the table while acting like he was talking to him.

I thought most of the the "remake" additions were bad, actually - stupid flying little robots in Mos Eisley streets that were obviously not there, and not seen by anyone, and so on. I thought the Death Star explosion was NOT improved by adding one of those stupid 2-dimensional fireworks rings - that explosion could have been made better, like with some really good CGI that added debris and stuff, but the old "ring of silliness" effect? The only additions I remember liking were the scene with the saurian-rider stormtroopers, and the scene with Han Solo and Jabba. Oh, I guess the added gobs of storm troopers in the Han Solo chase were comical, too, though it was already a funny enough scene without them.

PvK

gregebowman · #40 July 28th, 2004, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by PvK:
Ya, I agree with Greg's post too, mostly, but I'm curious about the Greedo part:

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
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I loved the original trilogy. I was 14 in May of 77 (has it been that long?), and remember that film fondly. I liked what Lucas did in 97 when he remade them, except for one thing. He should have kept the scene where Han Solo shot Greedo. Adding that part where Greedo's hand comes out with a bLaster still doesn't sit with me. I know since ROTJ he's dumbed down the storylines to cater to children or the really geeky nerds, but I wish he would have left that particular scene alone in the special edition.
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My memory was that he had levelled a bLaster at Han in the original film, too. Han just shot him under the table while acting like he was talking to him.

I thought most of the the "remake" additions were bad, actually - stupid flying little robots in Mos Eisley streets that were obviously not there, and not seen by anyone, and so on. I thought the Death Star explosion was NOT improved by adding one of those stupid 2-dimensional fireworks rings - that explosion could have been made better, like with some really good CGI that added debris and stuff, but the old "ring of silliness" effect? The only additions I remember liking were the scene with the saurian-rider stormtroopers, and the scene with Han Solo and Jabba. Oh, I guess the added gobs of storm troopers in the Han Solo chase were comical, too, though it was already a funny enough scene without them.

PvK

It's been awhile since I've seen the revised Version of ANH. I bought the tapes, but they've been in storage since 2000. And it's not like Sci-Fi channel shows them all of the time like they used to. But in the original scene in the cantina, Greedo indicated to Han that he was going to bring him in for the bounty, alive or dead, but IIRC, didn't actually make a move for his weapon. Han just shot him to make sure Greedo didn't carry out his threat. I'd have to see it again to make sure. Unfortunately, GL won't release the original Version of the movie, just the revised Versions.