OT: Worst PC Decision

[Cirvol]

LOL, you really shouldn't need a water cooled case... those are rather extreme.

Just add a fan which blows air over your video card's heatsink. Perhaps an extra casefan in case you have an unused fan 'port'

Btw people, tomshardware.com has a recent 'build your own' sub-$1000 gaming pc article Its near the bottom of his front page... enjoy !

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Renegade 13:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is a good idea to defragment your hard drive once every 2 weeks or so. If you do it often, it doesn't take very long to do it each time. You do not need to disable the virtual memory swap file each time of course.

Ok, I may seem totally computer illiterate (I'm not ), but how do you disable the virtual memory swap file??

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Cirvol answered this in a post below.

*link to post*

[Atrocities]

What is your guys call on the 64 bit processors, go with or wait?

[Jack Simth]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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And if you aren't trashing your old pc, and who does that when there are always family, friends, and home networks in need of backup computers, using the OS on the new pc isn't legit.

Only if you Subscribe to that unenforceable EULA gobleygook. It is not a legally binding contract in any way. I purchased the software, I can put it on as many of my computers as I want. Nothing "illegit" about it. Software is purchased by a user. Not by an individual computer.

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Actually, there are still copyright issues, even if EULA's are held unenforceable (as far as I know, they have never been challenged in court - until they have been, one cannot say for certain if the courts will hold EULA's as binding contracts or not) - if you purchase a book from the bookstore, you can read it at your house, you can let your neighbors read it at their house (or your house), but you can't read it at your house while you let your neighbors read it at their houses, as a book couldn't physically be in two places at once. As I recall (although I don't remember the source, so this may be false) the ruling on such readily copiable things as software, was that anything you would be capable of and permitted to do with a book, you are permitted to do with software - which means (assuming EULA's are held unenforceable in court, that is) you can install a single purchased OS on two machines, provided they aren't ever used simultaneously, as one physical book couldn't be in two places at once. Thus, you can't purchase one copy of Windows XP, install it on your custom machine (1), give your custom machine (1) away to your sister without doing anything to it, build another (2) and install your copy of Windows XP on it - the first machine is no longer under your control, so you can't be sure they won't be used simultaneously.

[Cirvol]

Well, there is QUITE a difference between the standard athlon 64 vs the FX model... (price reflects this as well - and as a result, the standard athlon 64 is a better buy for optimizing price/performance)

But, FX is sweet.

The nvidia nforce3-250 chipset seems like the sweetest one so far, again, do a bit of research at tomshardware.com. If you do any type of scientific research, (SETI@home, folding@home (my favorite)) then the athlon FX's are really really nice.

One caveat, they are about to switch to a new pin (and socket) layout, called the 939 - it might make sense to wait for these mobo's and cpu's before you purchase, (and for that matter, if you're upgrading your vga card, wait for PCI express - which will replace the AGP slot)

cheers,
Cirvol

[Instar]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
The problem I am having with Farcry is that my card is over heating. It is not over cloaked so this should not be an issue but it is. I need a water cooled case.

Any one here have any ideas on how to super cool a case cheaply?

Thanks cirvol, I wish you were around back then too.

Actually, it is a common mod to do, what you have to do is find the right water cooling block that attaches to your particular parts (CPU and video card). After that all you need is to remove the regular heatsinks from both (might be tricky on the vcard) and attach them, with a tiny bit of silver heat gel (it really is optional, but a little won't hurt). Attaching the tubing is next, and all you need now is a pump and a resevoir, and a radiator. You can find premade kits at any PC mod site, or you can make your own if you're good with tools.

[Cirvol]

guys, water cooling is OVERKILL, i swear

just take the heat sink off, make sure both surfaces are really smooth and flat, and use artec silver paste between them, and you'll be amazed at how well it works...

water cooling the card is just asking for trouble, honest

[Raging Deadstar]

Personally i'm of the belief that water + PC's = Trouble

A water cooled case just sounds practically insane considering what your computer is made of, and running on

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
Personally i'm of the belief that water + PC's = Trouble

A water cooled case just sounds practically insane considering what your computer is made of, and running on

Well, water cooling is only a step up from air. Next you have evaporative water cooling with a cooling tower. Then if you�re a real hard core OC�r, you can go with electronic chilling (pelts) and water. And for insane OC�ing, you can go with compressed gas (Vapochill).

[Roanon]

The only reason for water cooling is the reduced noise. Air is perfectly ok and absolutely sufficient if there are enough and good fans, but more fans always = more noise, even if you buy expensive "silent" ones.